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The Word Herder's avatar

There were no excess deaths in 2020. In fact, the total death count was a bit LOWER than usual, going from the past 10 years.

If the CDC can change the definition of "vaccine" and change the definition of half of the rest of the dictionary, are we really going to imagine that there couldn't possibly be a little tweaking of the death counts?

I looked at the death counts in 2021 and 2022, in the early parts of both those years. 2020 was NOT excessive.

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Allen's avatar

That's not true- there was excess all-cause mortality in 2020 in the US.

I could give you the weekly totals if you like. I tabulate these things on a formal basis.

The CDC most definitely was involved in fraud by falsely attributing deaths to "Covid." That's another issue that should be attended to by a grand jury.

However the pure body count is straight forward and can be sourced in multiple ways.

It is also of note that the highest rate of excess deaths was not that 6 week spike in March/April 2020 it was an 8 week spike that comprised the end of 2020 and first 4 weeks of 2021.

United States reported 3,353,787 deaths, for the 52 weeks of year 2020 (all years of age). Expected deaths were 2,920,345. That is an increase of +433,442 deaths (+14.8%).

The US has been in a mass death event since Spring 2020 which has nothing to do with a viral pathogen.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Okay, I'm not doubting your integrity or your ethics, or anything like that. But I feel pretty strongly I've got this right.

For a govt. that skewed sooooo many things, I don't trust much of it anymore. Sounds silly to say this, but I don't remember the source I got the stats from, I didn't keep notes or anything, but I do remember it was official and I saw it in more than once place... I dunno, but I do know a LOT of numbers were skewed, and the PCR was a fricken joke.

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The Word Herder's avatar

It was a long time ago... I MIGHT have saved it, but... tell you a great source for data & stats...

https://substack.com/profile/82609771-coquin-de-chien

This guy ROCKS. And, he's very, very cool.

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Allen's avatar

Agree. He's very thorough.

I've had a few conversations with him and one lengthy one over the phone.

During our phone conversation we went into a long discussion over the "reality"/ origins of SARS-CoV-2 and disagree on this piece of the puzzle. It was a healthy disagreement. I have a lot of respect for him.

I work with a few separate organizations- he did a presentation on his findings in regards to the death data and renal failure as relates to the Covid protocols. Everyone was impressed by the solid no nonsense approach- his data on this is impeccable.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Yes, he's awesome with the work.

I don't really care if everybody agrees on every little detail. It doesn't matter that much to me that you and I are in disagreement about death counts in 2020.

What matters to me is that people realize we are being scammed, and are heading into more trouble with the financial/tech manipulations that are coming. That all this virus hysteria was manufactured and the vaccines are killing a LOT of people, and sterilizing many more.

I know quite a few people, many of them fairly senior, and therefore more inclined to be watching MSM/TV and NOT doing much online research and the like. They continue to get boosters, and so forth. I've learned not to try and tell them much, they just stiffen up and freak.

Anyway, I agree with much of what you say, and I don't NEED to argue or end up being the One Who Is Right. I'm more interested in spirited discussion and being open to exploration.

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JustAPoster's avatar

This is an interesting discussion you are having.

I have some doubts about the 2020 figures. In November 2020, many were tracking the deaths in America and at that point, it was on track to be an average mortality year - a bit lower than 2019. There was even a paper by someone by the name of Dr. Genevieve Briand who was working at JHU which suggested there were no excess deaths. The paper was retracted but here is some information about it:

https://www.aier.org/article/new-study-highlights-serious-accounting-error-regarding-covid-deaths/

Soone after, the CDC said that the January deaths were not included in the death counts for the year that many were citing. This would add another 330k to the death toll putting 2020 well above expectations. Then there were some number of deaths for the rest of the year plus the ones that had not yet been added to the books through delays and the total was quite high.

However, it was odd that January would not have been included in those tallies? Also there was a blogger who had been following this closely and I believe he found some online source that suggested the CDC was outsourcing the mortality statistics to a third party due to being overwhelmed by covid. That may be but if that's the case, then the CDC would be off the hook if there were problems with the numbers.

Note also that others have noticed that the mortality figures in 2021 seemed to have been adjusted then readjusted.

https://mariaromana.substack.com/p/the-cdc-reads-my-substack

Also, if you follow Ethical Skeptic, there seem to be issues with the 2022 mortality figures.

https://theethicalskeptic.com/2022/08/20/houston-we-have-a-problem-part-1-of-3/

At this point. I would take any figures cited by the CDC with a grain of salt.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Thanks for that, good job!

Yes, I remember seeing the count for 2020 well into 2021, maybe February or March? There were charts, graphs, and so forth. I have a very visual memory, and while it's not always perfect, when I remember things, I remember them clearly, as pictures. I would suggest that this "excess" of 2020 is manufactured BS. I can't prove and I don't need to, because it's not my job. But I know what I saw.

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Alex Livingston's avatar

Clever troll/bot comment! Could throw people off the scent!

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macDuff's avatar

Well, Alex, I guess you're winning, cause I couldn't leave it alone. The thought I had is going to make it a challenge to not seem to be belittling you. If, as I believe, you are the troll/bot/shill, then so much the better.

Your point of view apparently is that you "know" (without any proof) that pathogenic virus particles exist, and you "know" that the world wide cartel of bankers/oil men/pharm companies who are all the same people somehow want us all to believe that pathogenic virus particles DON'T exist?

That's ridiculous. It's their best source of money and power. The best racket they have going.

Perhaps you can explain to me what has led you to such an outrageous conclusion?

Perhaps I've misunderstood you. Maybe you should make it clear what it is that YOU believe. So far you've only spoken of your reaction to things you claim I have said or to motivations that you have attributed to me based on what I would say are faulty assumptions.

Why don't you expose your thought processes on the subject of pathogenic virus particles and disease contagion and if you are even aware that it exists, toxicity.

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Baldmichael's avatar

We had excess deaths in care homes in UK in April/May 2020 due to lockdowns and many residents will have dies of a broken heart and loneliness.

There are also reports of midazolam induced deaths to 'help' them on their way.

Their are also issues of neglect and dehydration.

There can be excess deaths in a short period although over year the effect may not always be so obvious as the elderly may have died anyway, just not so soon in the year.

All the Covid scam issues are a joke, not just the PCR test.

And I wouldn't trust the government to do anything really worthwhile.

But then they are controlled by the vankers, sorry bankers, fingers slipped there.

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Courageous Lion's avatar

Could there possibly be a correlation between the roll out of 5G networks during that time period? There is a claim that the frequencies mess with the iron in the blood causing issues with oxygen uptake. Not enough oxygen has detrimental effects which can become deadly even with just a minor reduction in needed capacity.

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Baldmichael's avatar

This seems reasonable, but I think there is also the link to body chemistry as well so that EMF impact poor body chemistry far more than good.

Much of the issue is vit D deficiency, a real pandemic due to increased living and working indoors (and staring at Windows programs!).

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Courageous Lion's avatar

I take Vitamin D supplements to offset the lack of direct sunlight exposure during the months of the year that it isn't readily available without some major discomfort due to cold weather. But even when it is cold you can see me walking to the mailbox with no shirt on!

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Baldmichael's avatar

Good for you, I don't think I would be that brave! I supplement myself now, mainly because of the toxic poisoning I have had via sodium nitrite (250) I inadvertently consumed as neither my wife or I had double checked the labels and researched further.

https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/11/19/sodium-nitrite-e250-the-poison-in-your-food-and-how-to-remedy-it/

I am in the south of England, UK where sunshine is normally quite good and as I had a working life surveying buildings, I was outside a reasonable amount of the time.

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Courageous Lion's avatar

HOLY SHIT! Another place to get rid of poison. Through the food supply. And just think of all the patients for the medical mafia this could cause!

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