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Wil's avatar

Hi Igor, your research and writing is nothing less than stellar. I just want to give my two cents on the situation since I live in the city. Hong Kong had the unique opportunity to look at the world around them as a crystal ball of what could potential happen. The city lagged behind the world in terms of covid cases. The government contributed its success to their experience with SARS one and their zero covid policy. They were able to keep covid at bay for two years and the government sat on its laurels patting themselves on their back on the good job they have done. Because of this, they built quarantine units in the outskirts of the city, Penny's Bay, and anyone who had covid or a close contact had to go there for 21 days.

All this was fine and dandy until Omnicron started to emerge in the city. Then the government turned up the fear knob up to 11 and told people to get vaccinated or they will die. I remember that the vaccination rate jumped from like mid 60% to more than 70%. A week later, cases started to explode. Somehow within the two years, they failed to notice that cases explode after mass vaccination. And as the cases soared, the vaccination rate followed. And as vaccination rate soars, cases soar in an ironic obvious cycle that was completely predictable.

Most of the deaths so far are from the elderly 65+ from retirement homes who have frail health and comorbitities. Being one of the densest city in the world, it's not a surprise that a highly transmittable disease will spread like wildfire. There are mass outbreaks in apartment building because of the way they were built. People are getting infected in their homes simply by opening their windows.

Some scientists estimate that up to 15% of the 7.5 million inhabitants are already infected. The hospitals are overflowed, people can't get access to medication and even private clinics are closed. People in Penny's Bay and quarantine hotels are locked up with little to no help.

Now, schools will have their early 'summer holiday' from mid March to late April so schools can be converted to testing center as the government prepares for compulsory testing for all 7.5M people. It's terrible policy one after the other. The whole city is dead with few shops open. There is also a vaccine pass in place where the people who haven't had one shot can't enter restaurants and even shopping malls. In April, it will be two shots and in June three shots. I can't imagine the potential vaccine adverse effect fallout in a few months.

My family and I all contracted covid and we all took Ivermectin. None of us were any worse of than catching the flu. If we had caught it a few weeks before, our building would have been closed for mandatory quarantine and we would have been moved to Penny's Bay. But since there are so many cases, there simply isn't any manpower. Many people actually don't need to visit the hospitals but because of the fearmongering by the government, people flock there at the first sign of symptoms.

It's the poor government policy that's making a mess rather than the disease itself. All the anxiety, waste of resources and economic ruins, Hong Kong has learnt nothing from the rest of the world. Instead, it follows the same paths of other failed countries. Hong Kong is no exception; it's just late to the party.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Thank you for your AMAZING site report!

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Thank you for your insight. Much appreciated! My daughter and I are in Canada, everyone around us has COVID, is jabbed and sick as shit. We got it too, took ivermectin, had a sniffle. Right as rain.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Good for you!!! Congrats

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Sirka Sie's avatar

I honestly would have written it off as a cold but my kid needed to get tested for work. Her friends collect the kits like free condoms….I suggested they start collecting and using pregnancy test kits for every time they have sex….you never know one could be asymptotically preggers.

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Bandit's avatar

I just love so many of your comments, Sirka! This is one of the best. Thanks for the laugh! 🤗

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Lol, that makes me happy Bandit. I notice you too…we need a little brevity.

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I.M.'s avatar

How did you manage to source the famous horse dewormer in Canada? I've made the crack that you might have an easier time acquiring plutonium here in the vaccine zealotry capital of North America. Having a line on a veterinary supply seems about the only viable option I can think of.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

I was on to these assholes tight from the start and got it in 2020. A year later I heard of Fluvoxamine from Steve Kirsch and it’s been on hold in customs since November 2021.

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Matt's avatar

If your in Ontario fluvoxamine has been recently added to the treatment list so you might be able to get a doctor to prescribe you some now?

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dr's avatar

was good enough for the Queen to use recently. just don't call it Ivermectin...!

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Richie Vieques's avatar

Nigella Sativa, capsules. Amazon.com ?

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Seven cells pharmacy florida, they ship quickly, or check others on flccc site

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I.M.'s avatar

If you tried to have it shipped in from out of country, customs will just block it and that's that.

FLCCC has a note that black seed oil may be used as an IVM substitute in areas where IVM is unavailable. I wonder if that was contributed by a Canadian.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

I got some both from there and India. I buy rx drugs from India every couple years, it’s legal—they mark the packages as something else … I think if it’s a small package it’s generally ok. But things do change and all depends. I got black seed oil too from regular online store, along with zinc and quercetin. Also, naturopath drs. (The kind who can prescribe—i may bevgetting name wrong) can prescribe it—my friend’s sister got it.) True, Canada is all-out fascist, and maybe opens every package. Well there’s proven still the “horse” kind as long as one doesn’t take the horse dose.

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Ally's avatar

Glutathione works well too, as does Vits C, D and zinc

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

You gotta know people in the black market. This is what it's come to second-rate Canada and its second-rate response from second-rate health and public officials.

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QT31416's avatar

All the people I know who got Covid got the shot. Funny that.....

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Allen's avatar

It is the flu that is why it is "nothing worse than the flu."

"Covid" is not an epidemiological story it is a money laundering scheme and a global operation to "manage" the collapse of the Western economies and install a new financial system to control every aspect of our lives.

All else is distraction.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Allen your sentence is so good, I made an small edit-what do you think??

May I paraphrase you by name?

"Covid is not an epidemiological story, it is a global money laundering scheme to 'manage' the collapse of economies and install a new financial system to control every aspect of our lives."

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Allen's avatar

Absolutely.

My point here is that even many who understand that "something has gone wrong" get trapped in the fabricated world of "cases" and the false narrative that "covid" is some unique disease that requires special attention.

This disallows the lens to widen and see the big picture.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

not to be technical, but you actually decrease the size of an aperture to see further! You mean 'field' perhaps? ie Pinhole camera....best...

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Allen's avatar

I'll remember that for next time.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

When you put it that way...seems simple. My analogy - This is a dash and dine on all forms of retirement and social security, but killing everyone inside and outside the restaurant to insure getting 'away'. Even blowing up trade centers where financials are. (see any of Catherine Fitts vids). This crisis has made me aware of so many good peoples work in all sectors...it has, quite impossibly, made me both love, and hate, humanity more than ever. Tryin' to feed the good wolf.

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Castigator's avatar

Methinks Hong-Kong flu used to be a brand name of sorts.

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Michele's avatar

Agree. This guy thinks so to, though also talks about how to avoid this; pretty interesting interview.

https://rumble.com/vv28ai-edward-dowd-former-blackrock-portfolio-manager-pfizer-and-fda-fraud-financi.html

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Potatodots's avatar

Oh Allen, I got the virus in Jine 2020, from a 2 day hospital stay for a needed surgery. It's not "just" a flu/ Wish HCQ, IVM had been available then i my area. It was unlike anything in my experience, 21 days. I was blessed in that I didn't get a secondary lung infection. It's easy to be dismissive if you, or someone close to you hasn't had it. Yes, it is a huge money scam, because "jabs are The Solution." Those who survive the jabs will need cancer and or HIV treatments, at least. Cabal will ruthlessly extract what wealth is left in the middle class while exterminating Western societies.

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Allen's avatar

How was it confirmed that you got "the virus?"

Did you get a PCR test?

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Potatodots's avatar

PCR tests were and remain worthless. Clinical diagnosis, every symptom present. Serology several months later, too. No doubt by profundity of symptoms.

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Josh's avatar

My dark take on this is that the government is doing this purposefully in order to control the popularion. I'm sure you remember the protests in HK just begore COVID hit, and how much the CCP feared and hated it...sad

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Tim's avatar

I wonder how many of the ring leader activists in Hong Kong will 'die of covid'?

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Lionel's avatar

My take may be a tad darker.....dont read before you go to bed.

https://worldyturnings.blog/2022/02/16/why-are-they-killing-us-2/

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cricket1776's avatar

Thank you for an extraordinary document. Everyone should read this.

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Ally's avatar

We could go even deeper and darker with child trafficking/ adrenochrome and alien races who are at the head of/ in charge of the cabal who thrive on human meat/ blood. If we are to look at this situation properly, we need to address the exopolitical elephant in the room :-)

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Ally's avatar

Maybe it's to wake us all up??

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Louis's avatar

Wil,

Thanks for your very accurate report from Hong Kong, where I also live. Hence, all the best to you too.

We were once so lucky to have one of the best covid scorecards in the world, and now we have probably the highest covid death rate in the world. The government data do show that the majority who died were unjabbed. That and the lack of jab adverse events data available to the public make it very hard to argue against family and friends who think that staying unvaxxed is stupid, stubborn and not caring for others. Does anyone also have the same situation in other countries? How to counter argue that?

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SG_observer's avatar

Most likely they are play the same stats game - time shifting a person's vex status. So a vexed person took their 2nd dose, but gets sick within 14 days, they are considered 1 shot or unvex.... and in combination with the side effects, they get counted as 'unvex' if they pass away.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

I think it’s world wide. It’s really up to the individual to deep dive. We are being controlled WORLDWIDE by each and every governmental controlled media regardless where. This is a KABAL

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Vxi7's avatar

My counter argument: "YES I Am stupid, stubborn and absolutely don't care for others"

(then I note the name of the person who came up with arguments like these and avoid them like the plague for the rest of my life)

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Igor Chudov's avatar

That is EXACTLY what I told my son to say, if attacked and guilt tripped to take the vaccine at school.

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Jeff C's avatar

Yes. Sad to say but I don't want people who are easily manipulated by emotion and unable to think for themselves in my life. Seriously, what good comes from it?

Also remember that it takes two for a guilt trip to work. You should never feel guilty based on what others say unless you actually have admiration and respect for them. When my pastor pulls me aside and says he needs to talk to me about something then I listen up. Why would I do the same for some nut dressed up like he's handling hazardous material? Or someone who eagerly lined up to take an experimental genetic treatment for a sickness with a 99.8% survival rate (and much higher for the non-elderly)?

Guilt has a long history of being used to manipulate people. Falling for it is a choice.

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Ally's avatar

I have a FOI out on this right now but please see my comment on this thread where FOI info states that 2/3 of all cases are in the 'fully vaccinated'. With previous waves most deaths were old or had an average of 2.5 comorbidities, also PCR tests run at crazy high cycle threshold

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JD71's avatar

I am spiritually told ADHD medication will help. Makes the immune system stronger when sick. Studies seem to confirm. Dont know if VAIDS is real though. If i understand it is because amphetamine cause a release of adrenaline and immune cells have adrenaline receptors. One study: ”The COVID-19 infection rate is nearly 50% higher among individuals with unmedicated ADHD compared to individuals without ADHD”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7247598/

Also research suggest ADHD may be an immuno related disease.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Steve Kirsch funded the study on Fluvoxamine. No deaths. Look it up.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

re 'People are getting infected in their homes simply by opening their windows', injecting the illness through vaccine being the first problem, opening the windows regardless is usually a good idea, at least slightly more oxygen...sorry for the situation in HongKong, the world, lets see who is still standing in 5 years right?

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Sirka Sie's avatar

My thoughts exactly. I live in a relatively small town where a lot of people know each other through the grapevine. Lists of stories of strokes, heart attacks, unexplained deaths already. I told my kids to get used to it, it’s just the beginning. Right now it’s ages 40 + but wait till spring/summer when the outdoor activities start up. We are a HUGE soccer town….all the children. I’m already losing my mind over it.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

I feel you Sirka Sie, I live next to a school and watch the kids coming to and fro, and playing at recess...and I wonder, which ones will be dead from the injections?...at this point I have had to say to myself that it is on their parents, its on the Portland Oregon school board, if they die. I watch adult joggers and runners, and wonder, will they just drop? It is a mental agony, and I place my anguish at the feet of the Bill Gates et al. The business idea of 'move fast and break things' was applied to a health product, and this is what you get. And then there is the bankrupt Social Security we are all owed is gone. This is just one reason why a software person should not be directing the medical world. And he is.

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Jeff's avatar

I often thought that the culling of the elderly was an accepted path to remove them from the SocSec rolls. I have no doubt that it was considered a great side benefit of their malfeasance.

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Good to not feel alone…unfortunately on freakin’ genocide

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Lionel's avatar

Join or start a Patriots group locally. If none exists start one. We need like minded friends now more than ever.

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invektor's avatar

What type of vaccines did you use in HK? In our media (Europe) HK was praised because choosing Pfizer mRNA over local Chinese vaccines (with inactivated virus).

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Vxi7's avatar

Absolutely doesn't matter. There's no good vaccine against covid.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

Omicron is good

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Sirka Sie's avatar

Yup! Kids and I used it. We’re all right as rain!

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Sirka Sie's avatar

I was just going to say…makes no difference they are all designed to kill

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Louis's avatar

I don't have the data but my gut feel is 2/3 BioNtech and 1/3 Sinovac.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

I haven't heard much about the chinese vaccines. Is the sinovax as dangerous as the western jabs?

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Ally's avatar

There is no virus (it has never been isolated and exists in silico only)

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Ally's avatar

I live in HK and I have been sending FOI's for the past year to the govt. 67% of all 'cases' in this fifth wave are in the 'fully vaccinated'. The third of the population that is 'not fully vaccinated' also includes people that had their second jab less than two weeks ago, had one jab, vaccination status unknown as well as unvaccinated, so I imagine the actual figure of cases in those that have had at least one jab is very high. I am awaiting further breakdown from my FOI.

Additionally, up until the 16th Feb, half of all 'cases' were asymptomatic and the rest had cold/ flu symptoms with the odd fever and digestive issue. These concur with other covid symptoms since 2020. Certainly up until this time (and I am asking for up to date info) no symptom lookos like it should be pushing the death figure up to such extremes.

Up until the fifth wave 2/3 of the covid deaths had 2.5 comorbidities. Died with or of??

Please note PCR tests are being run at 40-45 cycles, where essentially you can find anything you want. This scientific tool was never meant to be a diagnostic tool. RAT tests are being used to inflate case numbers. Please also note that SARS CoV2 has never been isolated anywhere on the planet and exists in silico only, so what is the PCR/RAT test actually looking for?

My conclusions; ADE/ immediate death from vaccines are being added to these death figures, considering the jump in the vaccine uptake because of the city's coercion tactics. Normal old age deaths are being added as well, I imagine. Remdesivir is also being used. The dept of health is not giving me info thus far on how much it's being used but this dangerous EUA drug which shuts down livers, kidneys and hearts in patients is being used on children as well as adults, thus sparking fear amongst patients and vaccination of kids. I find the latter particularly appalling as it had a 53% kill rate in adults in Ebola trials.

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Louis's avatar

Thanks for efforts to squeeze out more context of the gov stats. The public is completely ignorant of any information outside of mainstream narrative. What to expect after Jimmy Lai and his newspaper got completely buried. The daily press conferences and journalists' questions are utterly underwhelming in terms of fact finding power and relevance of content.

I do believe the mrna concoction does something against the virus that have managed to breach beyond the throat and trachea and might have lowered death rates for the jabbed but of course nobody talks about risk/benefit calculation. I am also curious to know the truth about the old people that have died and grouped under "not yet fully or doubly vaccinated". It's possible that a lot of old people got their first jab just when this 5th wave ramps up and died from the jab or combination of jab and covid, and ultimately counted as "not yet fully vacinated" WHO is now citing HK stats to strengthen the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" narrative.

In a place like HK where panic buying is so efficient, any tofu or sim card seller is now selling antigen test kids. Paracetamol is in shortage and priced up 5 or 6 times. And yet I could gracefully walked into Watsons and got myself quite many bottles of zinc and Vit D, without any price penalty. All these show how much behind the curve HK people are.

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SG_observer's avatar

Hey, at least you guys have an FOI act in HK... here in SG, we have to piece together a lot of info on the sly, and try to be discreet in disseminating it. Occasionally someone would post strong hints on a public forum, but for the most part, the data is shared privately, as we don't want to tip off the govt about datasets which makes the whole narrative look really bad (plus incoherent and wrong)

For 2021, SG had about 1800 excess deaths (excluding covid deaths) and I forecast another 3000+ excess deaths in Q1 2022 alone, due to the unrelenting boosted push (about 80% boosted now). So total of 4800 excess deaths... vs 1100 covid deaths (which is probably inflated with / from issues). Taiwan also has official stats showing more vex deaths than covid deaths... and that is not yet accounting for excess deaths on their end. We all know that any objective risk reward analysis of the mRNA shots just show that it makes zero medical sense, but it hasn't been about public health for a long time... so all these additional data, is just to fortify our own sense of what's right and wrong. The folks who are jabbed, especially the triple-jabbed.. the data is not going to convince them not to take the 4th shot when its pushed. They've rolled over so easily so many times... what's one more for them?

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Ally's avatar

Yeah exactly, are you able to get info directly from the hospital authorities etc? Trust me they still sidestep questions they don’t want to answer but at least I’ve had some info. I’ve asked about total deaths for 2021 for hk - to compare excess mortality and that data isn’t available until may this year. Why so long when they can give me up to date numbers of RTAs ( which incidentally are more than 2020) and daily covid death counts 🤔

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Ally's avatar

Given what has been observed in the jab contents under the microscope, the purpose of this jab is human 2.0 and depopulating the weaker amongst us, therefore I do not think there is anything beneficial in them.

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Johnny Dollar's avatar

What a nightmare.

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Monica Hughes PhD's avatar

They suppressed the virus until everyone became even more susceptible through vaccination. oops. While deaths remain low in New Zealand, they are also experiencing a spike of cases that is higher per capita than anywhere on earth during the pandemic. oops! It would also appear they killed 2000 people with their jab rollout. Now will come the covid deaths in the vaccinated. https://themariachiyears.substack.com/p/2000-extra-all-cause-deaths-associated?s=w

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JD71's avatar

I am spiritually told ADHD medication will help. Makes the immune system stronger when sick. Studies seem to confirm. Dont know if VAIDS is real though. If i understand it is because amphetamine cause a release of adrenaline and immune cells have adrenaline receptors. One study: ”The COVID-19 infection rate is nearly 50% higher among individuals with unmedicated ADHD compared to individuals without ADHD”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7247598/

Also research suggest ADHD may be an immuno related disease.

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

The Chinese Sinovac and SinoPharm vaccines are aluminum adjuvanted that are known to have Th2 bias and therefore increased IgE antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) risk.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Interesting, do you have links?

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Vinu Arumugham #MAHA's avatar

Aluminum adjuvant Th2 bias:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6373706/

Th2 immunopathology upon challenge, post-vaccination:

Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22536382/

The Indian Bharat Biotech vaccine will have the same problem:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-21639-w#comment-5367278708

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PKR/First Fan's avatar

I thought Hong Kong used MRNA? Could be wrong.

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Susanna's avatar

Interesting idea. I’m intrigued and haven’t heard this avenue of thought.

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jrodder40's avatar

I believe Hong Kong mostly used Pfizer, though.

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Alex Woo's avatar

About 50:50 (according to government) Pfizer:Sinovac. But encouraged to mix boosters.

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HardeeHo's avatar

I see China proper isn't charted. I had also heard that China proper was not using any mRNA vaccines. Do the Chinese vaccinate?

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Igor Chudov's avatar

They have absolutely mandatory vaccination with their own inactivated-virus vaccine. It is not a very effective vaccine.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

I think it’s official policy that it’s not mandated and you’re not allowed to discriminate, but they don’t always follow that. Probably varies—like here, if you have no job or school to

lose, and don’t need an organ transplant you can avoid the jab—compulsory vaxxing is different.

https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3153627/why-chinas-covid-19-anti-vaxxers-are-happy-take-their-chances

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Floating101's avatar

Correct. It's not mandated, but encouraged...Shanghai is getting problematic...5 areas of the city are in various forms of lockdown now...supposedly people testing positive, but not sick...they've locked down entire office buildings where staff are having to stay for 14 days...getting interesting again...

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Tim McKeown's avatar

Could it be the CCP using the cover of covid to have a clean out of HK dissidents? They don't usually worry about any cover and just disappear people but they might find this a neat solution.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

Don't given Brandon's crew any ideas.

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Act of Survival NZ's avatar

I'm in New Zealand, and we are in a similar situation. Our deaths have not spiked outrageously yet, but they are showing signs that they will. We have close to zero existing natural immunity (having focused on ‘zero covid’ until now), so a much higher percentage of us are susceptible to catching it. Our government classifies any death “with covid” as part of the covid death tally (even when it is death via gunshot). As covid spreads through the hospitals in spectacular numbers, anyone who is there for any other causes gets noted down as a covid death. I suspect something similar will be at play in Hong Kong.

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Richard A's avatar

Obviously because of people refusing to be "vaccinated"

/s

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Cassandra's avatar

Then there is this, something brewing in the sewers of NYC. "So, they've been doing surveillance in New York City wastewater, as they are around the country.

And particularly in New York City they're finding what they're calling cryptic sequences. These

are sequences from the Coronavirus that do not fit with any of the sequences that we

understand from Coronavirus. So, where are these coming from? ... The speculation is that these are coming from rats who are being exposed to humans either through human waste, or by digging through human garbage and things like that, then circulating in the rat population, changing and mutating. The question is, could there then be a reverse zoonosis with infection of humans or other, you know, dogs, cats, and that be a mechanism to convey it to humans? But

no one really understands the significance of this or the origin at this point." https://cdn.prod-carehubs.net/n7-mcnn/7bcc9724adf7b803/uploads/2022/03/Mayo-Clinic-QA-Dr.-Gregory-Poland-COVID-19-Update-Audio-2-28-22_otter_ai.pdf?ts=1646170395 [March 1, 2022]

Probably nothing?

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Jim Marlowe's avatar

The way it is referred to as "the coronavirus" is odd. Coronaviruses are ubiquitous zoonotic viruses. How long have scientists been looking for coronaviruses in New York sewers? A relatively recent phenomenon I gather. And if they had been looking, finding them would have seemed unremarkable before 2019. I remember reading Karl Taro Greenfield's book about SARS 1. It is called China Syndrome: The True Story of the 21st Century's First Great Epidemic. I seem to recall that relatively little study of coronaviruses had been done before SARS-1 particularly in humans. Birds perhaps but rarely in humans. I could be mistaken here, I concede.

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EssentiaL41's avatar

This may got with Harvard 2 the Highways hypothesis. If you follow him! His deattenuating LAV hypothesis mentions rats and how cities will fare terribly because of this and the crowded conditions.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Hi Igor! I have noticed another interesting fact. Hong Kong started a booster campaign on Feb. 3. Look at the daily "Vaccine doses" data at https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

So, the deaths may be the direct result of booster jabs. Whether the batch is deadly, or there is some specific genetic vulnerability of the population, where the cumulative threshold has been reached, they may be dying purely from the jab. As an alternative hypothesis.

The jabbing continues in earnest as we speak.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

Makes sense and the same as everywhere

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Now, do we know the vaccine mix deployed in Hong Kong? I have found a report of 585k Comirnaty jabs (http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-02/27/c_139771597.htm) and some Sinovac jabs (https://www.voanews.com/a/thousands-could-die-from-covid-in-hong-kong-study-shows-/6459763.html) being administered.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/hong-kong-rolls-out-vaccine-passport-and-tighter-covid-19-measures-2516101: "Residents will have to show their vaccine record to access venues including supermarkets, malls and restaurants. They will also have to wear masks for all outdoor exercise and will not be allowed to remove masks to eat or drink on public transport."

So, chew through your mask?

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Bingo! "Doctors in Hong Kong may certify a patient to be unfit for receiving either of the currently available Covid-19 jabs in the city, namely the Corona Vac by Chinese manufacturer Sinovac or the German-made Comirnaty by BioNTech."

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Now, which one/both is causing ADE? Likely not Coronavac (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoronaVac), being the traditional inactivated virus jab...

Only one suspect left, not really suspect at this point?

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Survivedwithcannabis's avatar

My friend tells me they use mrna in Hong Kong , not corona vax

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Survivedwithcannabis's avatar

He say they had an outbreak start about a month ago . So the deaths coming in now makes sense . That Hong Kong is separate from China snd runs it’s own covid policies

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randomuser88's avatar

Local news says the 32 year old woman with two shots of Sinovac and one shot of BioTech died from "acute cancer" (is that a thing?) What the heck is "acute cancer" anyway? https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1637344-20220305.htm

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Susanna's avatar

I think acute cancer here might be a translation issue but that it refers to acute leukemia. This is my educated guess. And leukemia …. Well most of us around here aren’t surprised at the vaccine increasing blood cancers.

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randomuser88's avatar

"acute cancer" was the term used in Chinese. Basically the "expert" said the neck of the patient got swollen up, and it probably had nothing to do with the vaccine but the "acute cancer".

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Sasha's avatar

Just like dr Robert malone worried about when he went on the dark horse podcast

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Richard A's avatar

Or any autoimmune diseases. Blame the spike protein DELIBERATELY introduced to fight infection.

Oops.

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Tim's avatar

Whistle blowing US military medics revealed that cancer was up 300% after the vaccine roll out, numerous other serious outcomes were massively up as well. If memory serves neurological disorders were up 1200%.

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jacquelyn sauriol's avatar

Heard the same re death by autoimmune disease appearing within HOURS of the jab...that seems almost impossible to me, perhaps a random diagnosis with so many deaths.

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Castigator's avatar

Galloping cancer is an old thing; one of the first instances of it being used is Jack Ruby´s swift dispatch to the netherworld. Also, I believe, one of Assange´s lawyers followed that route of departure, and there would be many more such examples in the last three-score years.

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Wil's avatar

There are reports of post-vaccine adverse reactions and of course, almost all are written off as having no clinical evidence that it's linked to the jabs.

https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/20220309/bkn-20220309201955906-0309_00822_001.html

"In addition, Hong Kong citizens have received a total of about 13.11 million doses of the new crown vaccine, and about 6.17 million people have received at least one dose. During the same period, the Department of Health received a total of 7,097 reports of abnormal events."

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Allen's avatar

Everyone needs to keep in mind that "a covid case" is determined by a fraudulent testing methodology.

People are being injected with an experimental neurotoxins and suffering from massive stressors, abuse and deprivation due to all manner of "covid policies" as well as full scale medical malpractice hence the deaths we are seeing all around the world.

Has nothing to do with "covid" which is an invention of the very entities that are doing all the killing.

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Richard A's avatar

Variants happen when you "vaccinate" with a non sterilizing agent to a large number of people. See Mariks disease. Coronavirus was always a poor choice, especially for non sterilizing "vaccines" CDC had to change definition of "vaccine" to call the mRNA "vaccines" vaccines. Irregardless of their politicizing, non sterilizing "vaccines" CREATE variants. And this principle is NOT new, and a vaccinoligist NIGHTMARE. This is going to turn into (it already is, but it's going to get worse) a crime against humanity, purely for money for Big Pharma.

It isn't even "controversial" this is well known. You introduce a large population to a non sterilizing "vaccine" YOU GET VARIANTS.

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Thomas Turk's avatar

Infections based on what? A DNA strand or some NEW symptoms?

Dr. Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test stated that his test only idents strands of DNA from Hep. and various Flus, and that the test was NEVER intended to be used as a diagnostic tool.

US Dr. Elisabeth Eads studies noted that the PCR test gives 97% false positives. The quick antigen test gives a 40% false negative! (Danish Manufacturer). 3 rapid test kits have Sodium azide, a chemical is found in herbicides and, pest control agents,

NOTE!! The WHO on Jan. 20, 2021 in their Directive #202005 stated that the PCR test is of NO VALUE.. this superseding their Jan.20.2020 advice to do PCR test.

FDA, CDC halt PCR “test”emergency use authorization on December 31, 2021 after admitting it cannot distinguish between COVID and flu.

As well as SinoVac, instead of inventing a new variant, what about the EFFECTS of AZ, loaded with..

Video: Graphene Oxide: A Toxic Substance in the Vial of the COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine? By Ricardo Delgado and Prof Michel Chossudovsky Global Research, January 19, 2022.

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. The mRNA injections HAVE AIDS!

Swedish study 2.28.22 demonstrated and confirmed that the mRNA in the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid injections infiltrate cells and transcribes its message onto human DNA within 6 hours, altering our own DNA

Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Autopsies Prove Vax BioWeapon Caused Autoimmune Attacks And Death. (Based on 70 autopsies done by Germany's top pathologist, Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt).

Austrian graphene Research Scientist/Med. Dr. Andreas Noack was MURDERED after he released his evidence of graphene in the 4 mRNA injections, and describing it as ''razor blades in the blood that will kill all who get it''.

Prof Igor Chudov Pfizer vaccine, taken once, permanently changes the DNA of affected cells…DNA transcribed from Pfizer mRNA Vaccine contains mutant gp130 Cancer Cells. 28,2,22

Jourrnal of Hepatology. Immune-mediated hepatitis with the Moderna vaccine.. confirmed.

Brghteon. Dr. Jane Ruby Show. Incredible evidence of cancer diagnoses in the jabbed, exploding cancers in the boosted. 2.15.22.

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Concerned's avatar

This is the answer "Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. The mRNA injections HAVE AIDS!".

Once a person is infected with AIDS. Then AIDS does not need the non-vaccine to spread.

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Ben Haskell's avatar

Zelenko, in the recent X22 video (in the clip that I saw), did not say that vaccinated people get the "AIDS virus" known as "HIV" from the vaccine. AIDS is a disease, it is a list of symptoms. AIDS is often, but not always, supposedly caused by infection with the virus HIV. Zelenko in fact said something like (from my memory) "Let me be very careful with my words...." before describing how the Covid Vax can generate AIDS-like symptoms [in at least some people].

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Concerned's avatar

Here is another one

Dr Zelenko confirms the Covid-19 Vaccines cause AIDS

https://odysee.com/@dailyexpose:1/covid-vaccines-cause-aids:3

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Ben Haskell's avatar

Thank you. I enjoyed the clip; I didn't see it before.

At Aprox 1min 27 sec: Zelenko says "....not HIV-induced AIDS....".

In other words, not all AIDS is "HIV-induced AIDS", thus not exactly identical to the disease first discovered in gays, drug addicts, and people with blood transfusions.

I am being picky ....

.....because under certain conditions "HIV-induced AIDS" is contagious while "Vaccine-induced AIDS" is not contagious.

There are suggestions that Spike can be shed from the vaccinated, but shed Spike doesn't reproduce in an unvaccinated person. You may have a chain of transfer (vax to unvax to unvax) if you don't take a bath, don't shower, or don't wash your hands but even under unsanitary conditions the chain will dilute itself out rather fast. In contrast, the virus HIV can infect one person, that person can infect another, the second can infect a third, and the chain of transfer can be quite long.

At the end, Zelenko says "....I just like 'AIDS' because it freaks the hell out of people...makes them think....". This isn't dishonest, because he does define the terms.

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Concerned's avatar

You are a luck!

Fauci apparently used the”Key HIV Component” in COVID-19.

And a group of honest Medical Scientists in India found it! That’s right, autoimmune disease can be caused by HIV. And HIV, can cause a lot of other problems.

Note: this review was so important, they forced the team to withdraw it. Later, one of the team members admitted it, in writing.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

Fauci Hold Patents on a Key HIV Component Used to Create COVID-19

By Dr. Jerome Corsi| April 28th, 2020

Why does Dr. Anthony Fauci's name appear on 4 U.S. patents for a key glycoprotein that appears to have been inserted into a SARS virus chassis to create the current COVID-19 epidemic?

The legal portal Justia.com lists the following "patents by inventor Anthony S. Fauci" involving a glycoprotein found in the HIV-1, a disease that attacks the human immune system, leading to the Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, more commonly known as AIDS. In 1990, Fauci held the same position at the NIH that he holds today. Fauci made his mark around the anti-viral medications that were developed by Big Pharma to combat the AIDS epidemic raging at that time.

This same glycoprotein, identified as Glycoprotein 120, or simply as GP120, has also been found to be a key component of the current COVID-19, a disease that appears to combine a HIV-1 attack on the human immune system, with SARS CoV-1, the pathogen from the original SARS ("Severe Acute Respiratory System") that created an international pandemic in 2002-2003. The pathogen in COVID-19 is named SARS CoV-2 in medical scientific literature.

The four patents on which Fauci is named as an inventor are the following:

Patent Number: 9896509, patent granted August 3, 2016. "Use of antagonists of the interaction between HIV120 and ?4?7 integrin.

Publication Number: 20160333309, patent application filed August 3, 2016. "Use of Antagonists of the Interaction Between HIV GP120 and A4B7 Integrin.

Patent Number: 9441041, patent granted September 13, 2016. "Use of antagonists between HIV GP120 and ?4?7 integrin."

Publication Number 2016007586, patent application filed September 21, 2015. "Use of antagonists of the Interaction Between HIV GP120 and A4B7 Integrin."

An article published by a group of medical scientists in India in the medical science journal BioRXiv in January 2020 was entitled "Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCov spike protein to HIV-1 and Gag."

In a highly controversial finding, the medical scientists in India reported: "We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-Gag, all of which have identity/similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature."

The article almost immediately was withdrawn after disinformation experts recognized the medical scientists in India were suggesting that COVID-19 was created by inserting the particular glycoprotein from the HIV-1 disease that involve patents held by or applied for by Fauci. Even more upsetting to disinformation operatives was the suggestion that the insertion of these 4 inserts into a SARS virus is not likely to occur in nature.

The clear suggestion was that COVID-19 was laboratory-created, possibly as a bioweapon, and that the creator of the virus used GP120 to do so, a glycoprotein from the HIV-1 1990s era that tied back to Fauci.

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/66481

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Ben Haskell's avatar

Remember the guessing games kids play... "You are getting colder"....then...."You are getting warmer!".

The evidence grows: both Covid19 infections and vaccines can cause immunosuppression. If Zelenko uses the term "AIDS" to describe "immunosupperssion", I have no problem with that but I would prefer the term "Vaccine-induced AIDS".

Now we begin to drill deeper ("you are getting warmer") , to discover exactly how Covid 19 infection or vaccination causes immunosuppression. I sometimes look at tweets by Walter Chestnut. He made a post where he said that "Spike is like a Swiss Army Knife of Death", in that the Spike protein of the Covid19 virus attacks the body in so many ways. I suspect that immunosuppression will be very complex, like a "Swiss Army Knife". The "Swiss Army Knife of Immunosuppression" has many tools, and now I drill down on just one of them.

It looks like Spike may contain four inserts from the AIDS virus, HIV. One of them is the "Furin Clevage Site". The HIV version is longer, so it may have been trimmed down to size. This overlaps with a 19 nucleotide segment that was found in a supplement to several Moderna patents, the subject of one of Igor's posts.

The other 3 come very close together in three dimensional space, in a very exposed region of Spike, as if they just stick out there at the very tip, ready to grab hold of something. Maybe something like a protein sticking out from the surface of a "CD4 Tcell", the very type of cell that HIV infects.

more to come in a couple of hours, dinner time....

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2nd Smartest Guy in the World's avatar

A new sub-variant called “BA.2 + S:I1221T” = the "vax" is creating these "variants" or ADE

Expect VAIDS and "all cause" mortality to surge even more.

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Castigator's avatar

It is high time to stop pondering variants schmariants, and start focusing on bioweapons. Leave any viruses out of it until you can identify what each particular bioweapon consists of. It is a matter of establishing definitions, and moving forth within a correctly set framework. Clues to follow would be weaponized bacteria, incl. mycoplasma; radiation in general, and binary toxins. Chemtrails need investigating like flaming hell.

There never were any leaks; if anything, there were releases - as long as that would describe the mechanism of action, although it need not be such. It would be useful to consider "hits", and how they are achieved and/or effected. If Hong-Kong stands out by a mile, it is yet another lab writ large in this "live exercise" just as Pfizrael has been. Believe your eyes, and cut through the haze of complexity with Occam´s razor.

Thus far, Clif High´s notional sci-fi world with The Bug in the hyperspace would provide a more valid insights into what is happening than most, just as Christian eschatology does. It is impossible to move the earth without an Archimedean point, and we do not have one; once we do, leverage will supply all the tricks we need.

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Rocky road's avatar

Despite high overall vax rates, they have low vaccination of the elderly plus little prior immunity

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Wil's avatar

Because most of the deaths are from the elderly, the government wants roll out mandatory vaccination of all in elderly care home. If you have want to stay in one, you must get the jab. "At the same time, it will strive to complete the first vaccination of more than 1,000 residents in over 1,000 institutions within two weeks, that is, by March 18." (https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/20220309/bkn-20220309110005485-0309_00822_001.html)

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Peter's avatar

Wuhan in the early days also had a high CFR, with only 80K official reported cases. As we now know their real amount of cases was likely hundreds of thousands (some estimate 1 million), with about 50-80K deaths in the first two months and hence their IFR was about the same as the later EU/US estimates of 0.3%. My point: if you miss cases, your CFR/IFR are crap.

So I'm putting my money on what you explained a huge incentive to not tell. Also with omicron, how would you know? Unless you lose sense of smell, which not everybody does, it is literally impossible to tell from countless other respiratory illnesses.

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Igor Chudov's avatar

I kind of agree, but they also have a huge per-million-people death rate also.

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Ben Haskell's avatar

Excess all-cause mortality? Escapes some biases, my introduce others.

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Peter's avatar

Of course as they have very little prior immunity. Those who did zero covid policy, will now get more cases and death. That applies to countries as well as subgroups within cohorts. The "super careful working from home crowd" will now get all sick. And when I say all, I mean all. Just like nobody escapes flu in their lifetime.

That is also why the tripple boosted are seeing most cases all over the world. These are in the US the hysterical blue working-from-home crowd that avoided getting sick more than then "lets have beer with my bud" red rubs :-) But all over the world, this correlation is very strong. In my family the boosted are also the ones masking up and getting PCR test like mad.

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jrodder40's avatar

But the number of cases they are reporting is also very high for the population. And like Igor said, the number of deaths they are seeing per capita is basically unprecedented for this pandemic to date.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

In China they don’t count asymptomatic cases into the case count, so the count is greatly lowered compared the way the US counts. I don’t know about orher countries’ methodology.

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Peter's avatar

China doesn't have statistics. :-) They claim they had barely any cases since April 2020. I also doubt that an asymptomatic Hong Hong citizen is spared that black corn paddy. As I'm told, PCR test positive == 21 days in isolation.

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David Vicknair's avatar

There are other symptoms which are not common to flu or other respiratory viruses, brain fog, dry mouth, headaches without sinus congestion, for example. When these symptoms occur in addition to typical cold symptoms, you probably have Covid. But in their absence it’s difficult to tell. My wife and I had Omicron in Jan at the same time. She, + antigen, mild cold, headache & fever for a day and needed an antibiotic for a sinus infection—full recovery in a week; myself, - antigen, but virtually every symptom on the list and some lingered for weeks.

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Peter's avatar

There are lots of respiratory viruses that cause brain fog and dry mouth. I mean there are literally more than 100 alone that we call 'common cold'. Loss of total smell is pretty much the only unique covid, and even there one has to be careful that general loss of appetite/smell is not mistaken for the covid loss of smell. I've had brain fog many times with illnesses my kids brought home for instance.

Another factor is you can have 2 illnesses in parallel, and symptoms stack. So I had a other illness including brain fog and nasty cough, when I contracted covid (I know when and from who I got it, so know what symptoms were not covid) and other than extra fever my symptoms did not change. So if I had not known that I came into contact, I probably would have thought it was just an extension of that other illness. My wife did lose smell, but for me it was just 24 hours fever and back to chronic common cold. Now I took ivermectin and my wife did not, so perhaps that saved my smell, but who knows. :-)

Lots of people who claim to get reinfected are also just getting another illness, while being re-exposed in parallel. But their symptoms may be from another non-covid illness. As common as covid now is, it is still a minority of total respiratory ilnesses going around.

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Ben Haskell's avatar

"...minority of total...". See: https://syndromictrends.com/ (I prefer to switch to "Line")

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Ben Haskell's avatar

There is viral interference, where Covid19 seems to have suppressed Influenza and Parainfluenza.

Omicron may fail with suppression. But in that case I think Influenza attempted to ignite just as Delta was declining but just before the Omicron wave hit. And now we may have a second ignition attempt as some states are getting over Omicron. So I don't know if it is a failure of suppression by Omicron, or just geography.

If you play with the funnel icon, you can compare Covid19 (as SARS-CoV-2) with other Coronaviruses, and see something interesting that started early March 2021, and then vanished as the Delta wave hit. Some people claim that vaccination campaigns seem to ignite waves of Covid19, possibly because people have (transiently ??) suppressed immune systems for the first two weeks after injection. I did not observe this in the USA, where Covid19 seems to have almost disappeared just before the summer of 2021, just after the vaccination campaign, and then Delta hit. But then again, look at the unseasonal outbreaks of two other Coronaviruses, Parainfluenza, and RSV; all of which could have been ignited by immunosuppression.

Covid19 may not suppress RSV. Remember, during the summer of 2021, kids in the southern states got both RSV and Delta at the same time, the media panicked and claimed that the hospitals were filling up.

Covid19 may not suppress rhinoviruses and enteroviruses. Perhaps this is an example of viral waves playing musical chairs with geography, which is not resolved by the syndromictrends website.

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David Vicknair's avatar

Name a few where brain fog and dry mouth are considered definitive. Go ahead.

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