Unbelievable. The CEO of OneAmerica spends several minutes telling why he is going to require vaccination for all his employees then immediately turns to wondering why excess mortality is up 40% since vaccine rollout! Evidently he cannot put 2 and 2 together. Mass psychosis formation anyone?
Igor, listen carefully to what this guy is saying...
The CEO of this insurance company is shown at about 25:00 timestamp in, saying that his company and others in the insurance business are going to 'target and add premium loads onto employers that are based in counties that have low vaccination rates'
The insurance industry will be charging higher premiums to employers in counties with low vaccination rates !! Again blaming the unvaccinated!
He doesn't make decisions idiots like that based on what's best for employees, but what's best for the company. The government will shut him down if he doesn't demand compliance. It's the same for collaborators throughout history. None want to, but when the alternative is suicide, the instinct is always for survival. The enemy isn't ceos, it's governments.
For sure, tolerating evil is what allows it to manifest. It's a part of our existence, external and internal, but we can usually stop it from being a problem. But there's a line in there somewhere between appeasement to gain acceptance and tolerance to survive an existential threat. In this case, the government is threatening noncompliance with organizational death. Martyrdom is noble, to some, but ineffective. If you die, or in this case your business, you lose. Fighting to survive is not evil, though sometimes we must do evil things to win. Evil is always a question of perspective.
Great point. If you want to survive, you don't challenge King Kong, which is the U.S. government. So you figure out what the Government wants and then you do that. Multiply this by every major company in the country.
We probably don't want to challenge king Kong head to head. But we can probably out smart him, and we definitely outnumber him. Lots of good tactics to do that. Streamfortyseven and thecampaign have some good ideas.
They don't see the data, just the regulations, and the polls. This problem is entirely because the population predominantly supports it. We have met the enemy and it is us.
The solution is how do we make everyone interested in the data, the science. Most people wouldn't recognize science if it pulled a gun and robbed them on the street. Failure of the education system.
One of the things I love about our Substack community as well as the broader community of free, critical, independent thinkers around the world is we don’t take something at face value just because someone we like or trust says it. We investigate; we research; we dig in; and we corroborate, clarify, or disconfirm, and as a result, our findings are either strengthened or refined based on additional input.
THIS is what the scientific process is supposed to be.
Thank you for performing this yeoman’s work, Igor, and for helping to verify these extremely serious statistics that absolutely warrant further analysis. I wonder if there are any life insurance publications or resources that tabulate these findings on an annual basis so we could check life insurance statistics across the industry. Maybe you can look into that ;-)
I appreciate that, Igor! I try to vet articles when linking them from my own so any fallacious reporting can’t be used to discredit our arguments, but I don’t always have time to do that so am grateful when you do so and show your homework for verification.
You will see the market respond. When money is to be made be assured there are people intending to grab what they can. News like this will travel fast, even if suppressed. These are early days and we can't see inside those boardrooms. The story published in a minor paper won't get great traction but these stacks do get checked.
That will be a market signal. If you can afford the risk of short it could be a good bet as news takes it's time. My broker todays has seen no activity. Doesn't mean it's not happening but news takes time. OTOH, insurance companies are huge hedgers against risk.
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Now we just need to convince him he has the causation wrong. It's not the lack of vaccinations causing the deaths. It's the blockage of effective early treatment, Remdesivir/vent death sentence, Midazolam death sentence, and the vax-caused deaths that are driving those curves.
Untangling this is a difficult task for very smart statisticians EVEN IF -- and they should -- get individual level data. Like dates of all vaccinations and dates of all covid infections and date of death, if occurred. It is very complicated to sort through. But it should be done.
I think that the state of Florida should do it, to be honest.
Those excess deaths are costing him big bucks. If it continues (it will) it will bankrupt him. Not his fault. He's fighting for survival. Many businesses have already closed. Many more will. Expect a whole lot of crazy behavior.
Matt P, you beat me to it with all of your comments. My thoughts exactly. He is attributing the excess deaths to COVID & suggests the death certificates undercount the COVID deaths, as he doesn't offer any other possible explanation. He is emphatically on the vax train. He claims to be worried about losing good employees who are vaxed, but seems unconcerned about the 15% of employees who are not.
You would think the insurance companies have enough data to probe whether those deaths were due to not being able to get treatment for other diseases or from the vaccines directly. The July-October 2021 spike that peaked at over 80% above background should have given the clue to investigate that. Is the CEO a part of the mass formation psychosis or is something else at play? Are death & disability insurance companies regulated to a percentage of revenue for operations or do Indiana regulations allow them to profit from a pandemic? If they can use the excuse of the pandemic to raise premiums to cover payouts and still enhance the bottom line, it might explain his statements.
The next person on the video is the CEO of Amatrol. He claims 30-40% of his employees are not vaccinated, and attributes the resistance to the vax to "misinformation." I think our cause is truly suffering from not being able to make powerful counter-arguments to the influencers and decision makers. The censorship of the media and Big Tech is depressingly effective. We need to invite the OneAmerica CEO to a debate with Steve Kirsch's team or at least to watch presentations/interviews with Dr. Malone & Dr. McCullough.
The OneAmerica CEO (Davison) stated 40% EACM rate for 18-64 compared to pre-pandemic. So should we be looking at those combined age groups or simply focus on the 25-44?
For the moment, something that stands out that needs to be analyzed is the excess all cause mortality (EACM) for the 25-44 age group in 2020 - prior to vaccine rollout. That one is a bit of a mystery.
We can find the ACM by age group and year from these CDC documents (see links below and scroll to the 3rd page of the PDF).
What stands out is that in 2020 there were approximately 25k EACM in the *35*-44 group. The 25-34 group was only up ~2k, and that delta was consistent with prior years.
The table in Figure 1 (on page 1) of this paper I wrote in January 2021 shows the C19 attributed deaths by age, according to the CDC from 1/1/2020 - 1/23/2021. Download the PDF from dropbox here:
The numbers might have to be adjusted down ~7% to account for the extra few weeks in 2021, but ~8.5k C19 deaths were attributed to the 25-44 group. That still leaves ~17k EACM in the group.
What could be the cause? We can't attribute it to vaccines. I thought the CDC directive to count all PCR positive tests along with the fraudulent Corman-Drosten PCR meant we were over-counting C19 deaths. But were we undercounting? Was it suicide from lockdown? Drug/alcohol overdose? Death from disease progression due to shutdown testing/treatment?
This same baseline of EACM seems to exist in 2021, with the added spike of an additional 40% after the vax is deployed. I suspect many of us would promote the vax theory after that point, but what can we attribute the pre-vax EACM to for the age group?
I seem to remember some commentators stating, based on the EuroMOMO figures, that there was excess mortality in this age group in December 2020 in England only. They were puzzling over it, with the only explanations being something about the way the National Health Service was treating (or not treating) patients (a lot of Do Not Resuscitate orders) or patients being moved to specialist hospital units in England, from Scotland & Wales.
I think you do see this in Europe. I've read several stories at The Daily Skeptic that trace/document a rise in excess deaths with the role-out of the vaccines by age cohorts. These extra or unexpected deaths in the UK started well before December 2021. Sorry I don't have a supporting link handy, but will look for some.
In order to better understand him, he may have been under pressure to fire some people for (unstated) financial reasons, and this was the easiest choice for him. Not that that makes him a decent person as he is well compensated for being a bastard. See Matt P comment below!
He should have fired those who were the most expensive to his company (vaccinated and worse performing); however, the cowards way out was to fire the unvaccinated and hide behind OSHA (Despite the courts throwing the requirements out). On the other hand Peter principle says he is rising to his level of incompetence.
How can anyone mandate vaccines for their staff given they can see the massive increase in working age death following the roll out of the vaccines for that age group?
Isn't it amazing that Davison tells us that many of his vaccinated staff are insisting on not working with unvaccinated staff, it is almost like these vaccinated staff don't think their vaccine is going to protect them - which of course it will not.
How can any sane person mandate a medical product when it is now well established that these 'vaccines' do not stop you catching the disease and do not stop you transmitting it to others?
I hope the employees that he is discriminating against sue him into oblivion.
I'm not convinced about this, since the mortality raises above 20% in April 2020, not 2021, according to the plot presented here. I find the same date on the USMortality website. @Igor can you double check if the dates are correct?
Yes, it would be probably helpful. Another source of data that shows a clear excess in the population range 15-44 for 2020 (moderate, 3k approx) and 2021 (6k, twice as much as in 2021) can be found in Euromomo https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
The 2020 data is most probably consistent with Covid excess deaths, while in 2021 we have also a rise from January onwards with a similar slope as in 2020. But notably, starting from May/June 2021 the slope increases and the EU-euromomo tracked excess death rate goes much higher, reaching approx 6k. This may be really related to vaccination, since the timing of the slope change is correlated with vaccination of the 15-44 age cohort.
This is exactly correct. 25-44 do not die from covid all that much and much of their excess mortality is beyond covid. Considering incentives to overreport covid deaths, they would be unlikely to be UNDERreported.
It seems that for the 15-44y, there is almost a linear increase from week 22 (June) to week 44 (november). and for the 45--64y from week 17 (end of april) to week 44. And linear increase for the 65-74y, for the 75-84y (starting earlier) but not for the 85+ years!
Likely not Covid deaths. This coincides with the lockdown which impeded the drug supply as borders became less open , less air traffic, etc.
In BC, Canada, already the site of a ten year drug "Crisis" the excess ACM in the 15-40 cohorts was considerably greater than the total population Covid mortality, even considering the deaths "with" Covid were not truly deaths "due to" Covid. The drug OD's could not be hidden, and the supply of fentanyl and congeners was highly toxic.
Not unexpected. Atlas, Battacharya, others have warned of this for over a year. Anybody who didn't see it coming didn't want to. It will get worse. If we allow it.
We don't know the excess deaths are vax. Some are. Some are virus. Some are fights, car crashes, drowning, the usual, but amplified. Most are likely due to the misery induced by insane government policies. Poverty is way up. Suicides. Drugs. The Atlas book describes his warnings and the shocking lack of concern by the troika of birx/fauch/red that caused 2 years of global oppression. The "cure" was definitely worse than the disease.
And Jay supports vax for those who need it. It saved some lives in people weak enough to have high risk from infection. Most don't need it, and the vax risk was unnecessary, killing some who had no risk from the virus. Scott and Jay are doctors, interested in outcomes. The troika are bureaucrats, interested in politics and money.
Even if, say, you and me got complete data on all 330,000,000 Americans with their vaccinations, revaccinations, infections, reinfections etc, it would be a gargantuan task to sort that data out and make conclusions regarding causality.
Covid is not constant and vaccination rates follow closely with covid curves, making causality even harder to establish.
Additionally, a "Covid death" that follows vaccinations, is really a failure of vaccination and should be accounted for appropriately, not as something that "could be prevented by vaccines".
This is why we need an honest state like Florida to hire the best statisticians and provide them with data to understand it.
That said: those os uf who are antivaxxers should not just sit and wait until the best data is analyzed in the best way, for two reasons
- We need to make enough of a case for someone to LOOK at the data
- There is enough indications that "Covid Vax" is a fraud and is dangerous to its recipients, so we should bring up all data that points to that, while remaining scrupulously truthful.
Truth is the biggest victim of this disaster. Fewer of us are interested in the truth, much less capable of recognizing it. We couldn't make a lot of people look at the data without a gun. The solution is to get twit and CNN to report the truth. That's where many get "their truth."
I recently finished Atlas "Plague Upon Our House." He describes the utter disregard for the truth obstinate displayed by birx and fauch, therefore by the ruler of the global pandemic response, penise. The lunatics are running the asylum, and we seem to like it.
I agree there are deaths of despair and missed care in the excess death numbers, but we don't know how many are a result of the vaxxes. There are unprecedented numbers of deaths and injuries reported in the VAERS, EudraVigilance, and the UK Yellow Card system. There's an unknown underreporting factor for all three systems. And we have no visibility into V-Safe and the CMS data bases.
I like and respect Dr. Atlas and Dr. Battacharya. I think they are good men who are trying to help people. But I don't agree with them on every issue. I've never understood...will never understand...how anyone advocates for injections that contain billions of copies of the instructions to make billions of copies of the spike protein in an uncontrolled manner for an unknown period of time. The Salk admitted in April that the spike damages endothelial cells. The spike is the disease. The data are so corrupted, I wonder if we will ever really know the truth.
Doesn't matter if we agree with their conclusions, only their data. If you have reasons to doubt their science, please let us know. Some, like birx and fauch ignore the science and focus disagreement on the conclusions.
The vax is a tiny part of excess deaths. And it clearly prevented some, so probably a net benefit. As you suggest, we'll figure it out. For now, such analysis is forbidden, so most opinions are parroting political orthodoxy.
The spike protein that terrifies a few is the same protein as the virus, which seroprevalencecsurveys indicates is already in most of us, estimated about 40 times more than those so far diagnosed. The vax problems are likely something other than that protein.
It's harder to defusing causes for the real causes of excess mortality, including tragedies like 250,000 children starved in South Asia, undoubtedly many more even in prosperous regions like US. Not everyone is in the laptop class that orders doordash while browsing substack. Donate to food banks. Many need it.
You are making claims without data. We simply have no idea how much death and disability has been caused by the jabs. We do know that it is far greater than any vaccine in history and likely very underreported.
Yes, the spike protein generated by (or contained in) the jabs is the same as the viral spike. No evidence has been given to suggest it is less dangerous. And there is strong evidence to support my belief that the spike is the disease. The spike protein damages endothelial cells that line all blood and lymph vessels, whether from the virus or the jab. The early reports of bizarre clotting with late stage C19 disease and the numerous reports of clotting, bleeding, strokes, and heart attacks in the VAERS, EudraVigilance, and UK Yellow Card system support the idea that the spike protein itself is dangerous.
Are there other contributing factors to death in late stage C19 disease? Yes, most seem to be immune overreaction and clotting.
Are there other possible causes of injury from the jabs? Yes, the LNPs travel from the injection site, can cross the blood-brain barrier, and accumulate in organs and tissues. We don't know how long they persist in the tissues. There is also the possibility of autoimmunity because of how the jabs "present" the spike to the immune system.
No doubt, there are many causes for the incredible rise in ACM. The jabs are one of those causes.
I'm not doubting anyone's "science". I do not understand how any medical doctor, including Atlas. and Battacharya, can support the use of the mRNA and VV-DNA jabs.
You accuse me of making claims without data, then you make claims without data. The problem is the data is purposely sparse. We do know, and have long predicted, lockdowns kill. It's happening now. You may choose to attribute them to imagined vax damage, and some of that may eventually be proven. But evidence of more harm from the government policies is clear, for those who want to see it. If you find evidence of vax injuries, other than circumstantial, let us know.
As Malone says, the problem with medical evidence is extensive confounding factors. Jumping to conclusions is often wrong. If you don't want a vax, don't. If you worry about others, they probably don't care. RNA vax is solid technology, and is an inevitable part of our future. Progress always hurts a few. It's how we learn. But progress is how we make our future better.
Yup--I used to work across the street from OneAmerica.
The Indiana legislature is likely to set Davison et al back on their heels with a testing option requirement at employer expense. Most of us Hoosiers do not like these crazy, top-down mandates.
Can you believe that guy actually promotes the death shot while simultaneously providing data showing that the death shot is cause of the mortality increase. The level of cognitive dissonance and brainwashing is staggering.
Unless he can't add 2 and 2 together it is beyond belief that he would even advocate for much less MANDATE the covid vax on his employees. I hope they all tell him "NO".
Thank you for the comment. Trust seeking means I have to fact check everything. There are bogus antivax articles out there, I try hard not to quote those.
The scientific method is to first fact check yourself (repeatedly), then any citations relied on (always the methods and the supplemental methods where the bodies are often hidden)
In the process, one may learn something the writer of the cited article did not explore, opening an avenue for new research and funding and research.
I have found very few MSM articles on Covid accurate (or truthful) wrt the peer review literature, which in many cases has the truth hidden in supplemental material, particularly where industry funding is involved.
A lot of people think science is settled. Science is never settled it always must be treated with skepticism as new data is available (not so much for new models).
If you can get monthly excess mortality data, then subtract from that suicides and homicides, that would put an even finer point on the general decline in health in that age cohort.
Let me know if you would like to try it, sounds like a great idea. But keep in mind that vaccines do have neurological effects and may give impulse to suicidal ideation.
Yep, we can't really discount the homicides or even accidental deaths, either. Having a vax-induced stroke while driving down the freeway will never be connected to the shot, but I guarantee it's happened more than once in the last year.
The CDC presents detailed causes of death that can be obtained by month (or year) and age group. The data can be downloaded for analysis with software tools.
Note that Influenza & Pneumonia are over 50% of COVID.
Find "What are the death rates for the 10 leading causes of death?"
The CDC claims: "Suicide dropped from the list of 10 leading causes in 2020. Causes of death are ranked according to number of deaths (1). The 10 leading causes accounted for 74.1% of all deaths in the United States in 2020."
Ive heard (from testimonies of vaccine injured) that they know other vaccine injured who have taken their own lives due to the struggle to be recognized/properly treated. This whole COVID mess (but especially the suppression of safe, cheap drugs, lockdowns, and vaccines) has killed/harmed so many.
Statement from the "absolute Excess" tab at the same site "“To date, for the year 2021, United States reported 195,641 deaths of 25-44 years ages. Expected deaths thus far, were 135,916. That is an increase of 59,725 deaths (+43.9%).”"
It is difficult to directly compare to the CEO statement, as their customers will have a demographic skew and it is unclear if they take the entire basket of customers and calculate the increase in mortality or take the increase in mortality for smaller age ranges and then average those. That said...the CEO statement and the CDC data is not inconsistent.
Indeed! The corporate life insurance demographics likely skew older, higher income, and male compared to the overall population. Confounding factors, but small compared to ~40% .
Glad to see affirmation. I just checked Met Life and insiders have not yet been selling. Don't know what the shorts on insurance stocks are doing but if other insurers see a similar uptick, for whatever reason there are huge consequences ahead. Perhaps another industry too big to fail.
All of that aside from the mounting evidence of the coming disasters. At 82 my horizon is not the same as working person at 52 with a wife and three kids. Lord help the politicians. Trying to spin this with 80% + vaccinated will be very hard. Darwin is a very ruthless principle.
Good job, Igor! Exactly what many of us knew is going to happen. Global vax genocide in progress as planned by the evil elites. Many people just waking up now to the centuries old plot. " 'Since the beginning of the Corona operation, many people began to realise that their governments have been taken over by very powerful and extremely evil forces, making political leaders worldwide move in unison to unleash unprecedented tyranny on their citizens.' : The Hidden History of the Revived Roman Empire Jesuit Influence and Infiltration of The US and World Governments. Secret Treaty Of Verona https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/the-hidden-history-of-the-revived
Maybe future life insurance policies will include along with the questions about smoking questions about whether or not the applicant received the covid vax.
Unbelievable. The CEO of OneAmerica spends several minutes telling why he is going to require vaccination for all his employees then immediately turns to wondering why excess mortality is up 40% since vaccine rollout! Evidently he cannot put 2 and 2 together. Mass psychosis formation anyone?
Honestly, yes he is wrong, BUT at the same time this makes him more believable.
Igor, listen carefully to what this guy is saying...
The CEO of this insurance company is shown at about 25:00 timestamp in, saying that his company and others in the insurance business are going to 'target and add premium loads onto employers that are based in counties that have low vaccination rates'
The insurance industry will be charging higher premiums to employers in counties with low vaccination rates !! Again blaming the unvaccinated!
I saw that and was shocked as to the stupidity of all this, especialy in going by county.
But, as I said several times, it shows that his claim of excess mortality is credible and is NOT caused by an antivax sentiment.
Create or support a problem and then sell the solution or otherwise profit from the problem. It is still one of the most successful business models.
He doesn't make decisions idiots like that based on what's best for employees, but what's best for the company. The government will shut him down if he doesn't demand compliance. It's the same for collaborators throughout history. None want to, but when the alternative is suicide, the instinct is always for survival. The enemy isn't ceos, it's governments.
Disagree, David. The true number of psychopaths is never more than 1 or 2%. It's the "just doing my job" enablers who keep the evil going.
For sure, tolerating evil is what allows it to manifest. It's a part of our existence, external and internal, but we can usually stop it from being a problem. But there's a line in there somewhere between appeasement to gain acceptance and tolerance to survive an existential threat. In this case, the government is threatening noncompliance with organizational death. Martyrdom is noble, to some, but ineffective. If you die, or in this case your business, you lose. Fighting to survive is not evil, though sometimes we must do evil things to win. Evil is always a question of perspective.
Great point. If you want to survive, you don't challenge King Kong, which is the U.S. government. So you figure out what the Government wants and then you do that. Multiply this by every major company in the country.
We probably don't want to challenge king Kong head to head. But we can probably out smart him, and we definitely outnumber him. Lots of good tactics to do that. Streamfortyseven and thecampaign have some good ideas.
They're just people doing a difficult job. Mike Rowe should do an episode on executive management, one of the dirtiest jobs there is.
He's not a big fan of critical thinking, is he?
They don't see the data, just the regulations, and the polls. This problem is entirely because the population predominantly supports it. We have met the enemy and it is us.
The solution is how do we make everyone interested in the data, the science. Most people wouldn't recognize science if it pulled a gun and robbed them on the street. Failure of the education system.
One of the things I love about our Substack community as well as the broader community of free, critical, independent thinkers around the world is we don’t take something at face value just because someone we like or trust says it. We investigate; we research; we dig in; and we corroborate, clarify, or disconfirm, and as a result, our findings are either strengthened or refined based on additional input.
THIS is what the scientific process is supposed to be.
Thank you for performing this yeoman’s work, Igor, and for helping to verify these extremely serious statistics that absolutely warrant further analysis. I wonder if there are any life insurance publications or resources that tabulate these findings on an annual basis so we could check life insurance statistics across the industry. Maybe you can look into that ;-)
Thank you. I wanted to do some basic checks to see if we all did not just come across some fake article. It looks like this is a legitimate story.
I appreciate that, Igor! I try to vet articles when linking them from my own so any fallacious reporting can’t be used to discredit our arguments, but I don’t always have time to do that so am grateful when you do so and show your homework for verification.
You will see the market respond. When money is to be made be assured there are people intending to grab what they can. News like this will travel fast, even if suppressed. These are early days and we can't see inside those boardrooms. The story published in a minor paper won't get great traction but these stacks do get checked.
short-sell life insurance stocks?
It does seem like insurers who are overweight on life term (20-40 years) younger people insurance policies would be hit very hard.
Even worse could be for reinsurers who reinsure such insurers, could be a bloodbath. I hope Warren Buffett is taking a look in that sphere.
Unless they get bailed out. But that bailout would mean trillions, and hyperinflation.
That will be a market signal. If you can afford the risk of short it could be a good bet as news takes it's time. My broker todays has seen no activity. Doesn't mean it's not happening but news takes time. OTOH, insurance companies are huge hedgers against risk.
Nodding my head in complete agreement. Well said.
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Great job, Igor!
I saw this article earlier today and found the original conference video: https://cbs4indy.com/video/chamber-of-commerce-indiana-hospital-association-discuss-covid-impact/7267146/
The insurance CEO starts about 21:00, and the article is accurate in the quotations from the conference.
Amazing! I added it to the article, and it is JUST what I needed!
I also recorded that video on my cell phone in case if it gets pulled.
I saved the YouTube video page to the "Wayback Machine" (archive.org). It is scheduled to be fully saved about 6 hours from now. If it is not pulled by YT before then there will be a permanent record of it at archive.org. At that site search for: https://youtu.be/5AOHrZHG5L0
Great,l I added the youtube link also
FYI - the link is now active - the video plays from Archive.org - but it is slow to load. Archive.org is a great resource. Whenever I come across a scientific paper or controversial article that is likely to be censored in the future, I try to take the time to store the link at Archive.org. You can create your own account so that the things you saved can be easily retrieved - but you can view any link stored there. They also utilize web crawlers which capture many webpages automatically. If ever a link to a favorite page is missing you can take that link to Archive.org to see if it exists. Many times you can find 10-20 versions of the page over years of time. (Sorry if this is already known to you.)
No worries! Thought it best to dig out the original source, the article looked sketchy to me as well
It did to me also, and this is why I went to such depths to fact-check it.
The pro-vax CEO actually adds greatly to the credibility.
Now we just need to convince him he has the causation wrong. It's not the lack of vaccinations causing the deaths. It's the blockage of effective early treatment, Remdesivir/vent death sentence, Midazolam death sentence, and the vax-caused deaths that are driving those curves.
Untangling this is a difficult task for very smart statisticians EVEN IF -- and they should -- get individual level data. Like dates of all vaccinations and dates of all covid infections and date of death, if occurred. It is very complicated to sort through. But it should be done.
I think that the state of Florida should do it, to be honest.
I did not like him ONE bit -- but his position makes his words even more creditworthy. He is not some kind of barking mad antivaxxer like me.
Those excess deaths are costing him big bucks. If it continues (it will) it will bankrupt him. Not his fault. He's fighting for survival. Many businesses have already closed. Many more will. Expect a whole lot of crazy behavior.
Matt P, you beat me to it with all of your comments. My thoughts exactly. He is attributing the excess deaths to COVID & suggests the death certificates undercount the COVID deaths, as he doesn't offer any other possible explanation. He is emphatically on the vax train. He claims to be worried about losing good employees who are vaxed, but seems unconcerned about the 15% of employees who are not.
You would think the insurance companies have enough data to probe whether those deaths were due to not being able to get treatment for other diseases or from the vaccines directly. The July-October 2021 spike that peaked at over 80% above background should have given the clue to investigate that. Is the CEO a part of the mass formation psychosis or is something else at play? Are death & disability insurance companies regulated to a percentage of revenue for operations or do Indiana regulations allow them to profit from a pandemic? If they can use the excuse of the pandemic to raise premiums to cover payouts and still enhance the bottom line, it might explain his statements.
The next person on the video is the CEO of Amatrol. He claims 30-40% of his employees are not vaccinated, and attributes the resistance to the vax to "misinformation." I think our cause is truly suffering from not being able to make powerful counter-arguments to the influencers and decision makers. The censorship of the media and Big Tech is depressingly effective. We need to invite the OneAmerica CEO to a debate with Steve Kirsch's team or at least to watch presentations/interviews with Dr. Malone & Dr. McCullough.
What lockdown? There was not much of a lockdown in 2021, was there? Am I forgetting anything?
The OneAmerica CEO (Davison) stated 40% EACM rate for 18-64 compared to pre-pandemic. So should we be looking at those combined age groups or simply focus on the 25-44?
For the moment, something that stands out that needs to be analyzed is the excess all cause mortality (EACM) for the 25-44 age group in 2020 - prior to vaccine rollout. That one is a bit of a mystery.
We can find the ACM by age group and year from these CDC documents (see links below and scroll to the 3rd page of the PDF).
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db427-tables.pdf#3
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db395-tables-508.pdf#page=3
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db355_tables-508.pdf#page=3
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db328_tables-508.pdf#3
What stands out is that in 2020 there were approximately 25k EACM in the *35*-44 group. The 25-34 group was only up ~2k, and that delta was consistent with prior years.
The table in Figure 1 (on page 1) of this paper I wrote in January 2021 shows the C19 attributed deaths by age, according to the CDC from 1/1/2020 - 1/23/2021. Download the PDF from dropbox here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt744x74godvtt0/COVID19%20Pandemic%20Facts%2020210206-1.pdf?dl=0
The numbers might have to be adjusted down ~7% to account for the extra few weeks in 2021, but ~8.5k C19 deaths were attributed to the 25-44 group. That still leaves ~17k EACM in the group.
What could be the cause? We can't attribute it to vaccines. I thought the CDC directive to count all PCR positive tests along with the fraudulent Corman-Drosten PCR meant we were over-counting C19 deaths. But were we undercounting? Was it suicide from lockdown? Drug/alcohol overdose? Death from disease progression due to shutdown testing/treatment?
This same baseline of EACM seems to exist in 2021, with the added spike of an additional 40% after the vax is deployed. I suspect many of us would promote the vax theory after that point, but what can we attribute the pre-vax EACM to for the age group?
I seem to remember some commentators stating, based on the EuroMOMO figures, that there was excess mortality in this age group in December 2020 in England only. They were puzzling over it, with the only explanations being something about the way the National Health Service was treating (or not treating) patients (a lot of Do Not Resuscitate orders) or patients being moved to specialist hospital units in England, from Scotland & Wales.
I think you do see this in Europe. I've read several stories at The Daily Skeptic that trace/document a rise in excess deaths with the role-out of the vaccines by age cohorts. These extra or unexpected deaths in the UK started well before December 2021. Sorry I don't have a supporting link handy, but will look for some.
In order to better understand him, he may have been under pressure to fire some people for (unstated) financial reasons, and this was the easiest choice for him. Not that that makes him a decent person as he is well compensated for being a bastard. See Matt P comment below!
He should have fired those who were the most expensive to his company (vaccinated and worse performing); however, the cowards way out was to fire the unvaccinated and hide behind OSHA (Despite the courts throwing the requirements out). On the other hand Peter principle says he is rising to his level of incompetence.
How can anyone mandate vaccines for their staff given they can see the massive increase in working age death following the roll out of the vaccines for that age group?
Isn't it amazing that Davison tells us that many of his vaccinated staff are insisting on not working with unvaccinated staff, it is almost like these vaccinated staff don't think their vaccine is going to protect them - which of course it will not.
How can any sane person mandate a medical product when it is now well established that these 'vaccines' do not stop you catching the disease and do not stop you transmitting it to others?
I hope the employees that he is discriminating against sue him into oblivion.
Davison's presentation was disturbing for many reasons.
- Vaccinated staff acting in an ominous way
- Complete lack of integrative thinking on Davison's part (which adds his words credibility, oddly)
- The substance of what he said about 40% excess deaths
Do you know what the state of play was for 2020 regarding insurance pay outs etc?
I don't remember seeing any reports of high levels of excess death amongst working age people before the vaccines were rolled out.
“You will see that this excess mortality only started in April, strangely coinciding with vaccine rollout for this age group” 😳
I'm not convinced about this, since the mortality raises above 20% in April 2020, not 2021, according to the plot presented here. I find the same date on the USMortality website. @Igor can you double check if the dates are correct?
Good question. I was talking about 2021. Maybe I should re-phrase my sentence for clearer meaning?
Yes, it would be probably helpful. Another source of data that shows a clear excess in the population range 15-44 for 2020 (moderate, 3k approx) and 2021 (6k, twice as much as in 2021) can be found in Euromomo https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps
The 2020 data is most probably consistent with Covid excess deaths, while in 2021 we have also a rise from January onwards with a similar slope as in 2020. But notably, starting from May/June 2021 the slope increases and the EU-euromomo tracked excess death rate goes much higher, reaching approx 6k. This may be really related to vaccination, since the timing of the slope change is correlated with vaccination of the 15-44 age cohort.
This is exactly correct. 25-44 do not die from covid all that much and much of their excess mortality is beyond covid. Considering incentives to overreport covid deaths, they would be unlikely to be UNDERreported.
It seems that for the 15-44y, there is almost a linear increase from week 22 (June) to week 44 (november). and for the 45--64y from week 17 (end of april) to week 44. And linear increase for the 65-74y, for the 75-84y (starting earlier) but not for the 85+ years!
Likely not Covid deaths. This coincides with the lockdown which impeded the drug supply as borders became less open , less air traffic, etc.
In BC, Canada, already the site of a ten year drug "Crisis" the excess ACM in the 15-40 cohorts was considerably greater than the total population Covid mortality, even considering the deaths "with" Covid were not truly deaths "due to" Covid. The drug OD's could not be hidden, and the supply of fentanyl and congeners was highly toxic.
I have found another article with many relevant datasources for observed excess deaths https://swprs.org/covid-vaccines-a-reality-check/
YES
Not unexpected. Atlas, Battacharya, others have warned of this for over a year. Anybody who didn't see it coming didn't want to. It will get worse. If we allow it.
Yep
Are you saying Atlas and Battacharya warned of vaxx deaths? I don't know about Atlas, but Battacharya supports the vaxxes...just not for everyone.
From the population standpoint, vaxxing 70+ years old is really not a problem if this is what they want. The problem is vaxxing persons under 50-60.
We don't know the excess deaths are vax. Some are. Some are virus. Some are fights, car crashes, drowning, the usual, but amplified. Most are likely due to the misery induced by insane government policies. Poverty is way up. Suicides. Drugs. The Atlas book describes his warnings and the shocking lack of concern by the troika of birx/fauch/red that caused 2 years of global oppression. The "cure" was definitely worse than the disease.
And Jay supports vax for those who need it. It saved some lives in people weak enough to have high risk from infection. Most don't need it, and the vax risk was unnecessary, killing some who had no risk from the virus. Scott and Jay are doctors, interested in outcomes. The troika are bureaucrats, interested in politics and money.
Even if, say, you and me got complete data on all 330,000,000 Americans with their vaccinations, revaccinations, infections, reinfections etc, it would be a gargantuan task to sort that data out and make conclusions regarding causality.
Covid is not constant and vaccination rates follow closely with covid curves, making causality even harder to establish.
Additionally, a "Covid death" that follows vaccinations, is really a failure of vaccination and should be accounted for appropriately, not as something that "could be prevented by vaccines".
This is why we need an honest state like Florida to hire the best statisticians and provide them with data to understand it.
That said: those os uf who are antivaxxers should not just sit and wait until the best data is analyzed in the best way, for two reasons
- We need to make enough of a case for someone to LOOK at the data
- There is enough indications that "Covid Vax" is a fraud and is dangerous to its recipients, so we should bring up all data that points to that, while remaining scrupulously truthful.
Truth is the biggest victim of this disaster. Fewer of us are interested in the truth, much less capable of recognizing it. We couldn't make a lot of people look at the data without a gun. The solution is to get twit and CNN to report the truth. That's where many get "their truth."
I recently finished Atlas "Plague Upon Our House." He describes the utter disregard for the truth obstinate displayed by birx and fauch, therefore by the ruler of the global pandemic response, penise. The lunatics are running the asylum, and we seem to like it.
I agree there are deaths of despair and missed care in the excess death numbers, but we don't know how many are a result of the vaxxes. There are unprecedented numbers of deaths and injuries reported in the VAERS, EudraVigilance, and the UK Yellow Card system. There's an unknown underreporting factor for all three systems. And we have no visibility into V-Safe and the CMS data bases.
I like and respect Dr. Atlas and Dr. Battacharya. I think they are good men who are trying to help people. But I don't agree with them on every issue. I've never understood...will never understand...how anyone advocates for injections that contain billions of copies of the instructions to make billions of copies of the spike protein in an uncontrolled manner for an unknown period of time. The Salk admitted in April that the spike damages endothelial cells. The spike is the disease. The data are so corrupted, I wonder if we will ever really know the truth.
Doesn't matter if we agree with their conclusions, only their data. If you have reasons to doubt their science, please let us know. Some, like birx and fauch ignore the science and focus disagreement on the conclusions.
The vax is a tiny part of excess deaths. And it clearly prevented some, so probably a net benefit. As you suggest, we'll figure it out. For now, such analysis is forbidden, so most opinions are parroting political orthodoxy.
The spike protein that terrifies a few is the same protein as the virus, which seroprevalencecsurveys indicates is already in most of us, estimated about 40 times more than those so far diagnosed. The vax problems are likely something other than that protein.
It's harder to defusing causes for the real causes of excess mortality, including tragedies like 250,000 children starved in South Asia, undoubtedly many more even in prosperous regions like US. Not everyone is in the laptop class that orders doordash while browsing substack. Donate to food banks. Many need it.
You are making claims without data. We simply have no idea how much death and disability has been caused by the jabs. We do know that it is far greater than any vaccine in history and likely very underreported.
Yes, the spike protein generated by (or contained in) the jabs is the same as the viral spike. No evidence has been given to suggest it is less dangerous. And there is strong evidence to support my belief that the spike is the disease. The spike protein damages endothelial cells that line all blood and lymph vessels, whether from the virus or the jab. The early reports of bizarre clotting with late stage C19 disease and the numerous reports of clotting, bleeding, strokes, and heart attacks in the VAERS, EudraVigilance, and UK Yellow Card system support the idea that the spike protein itself is dangerous.
Are there other contributing factors to death in late stage C19 disease? Yes, most seem to be immune overreaction and clotting.
Are there other possible causes of injury from the jabs? Yes, the LNPs travel from the injection site, can cross the blood-brain barrier, and accumulate in organs and tissues. We don't know how long they persist in the tissues. There is also the possibility of autoimmunity because of how the jabs "present" the spike to the immune system.
No doubt, there are many causes for the incredible rise in ACM. The jabs are one of those causes.
I'm not doubting anyone's "science". I do not understand how any medical doctor, including Atlas. and Battacharya, can support the use of the mRNA and VV-DNA jabs.
You accuse me of making claims without data, then you make claims without data. The problem is the data is purposely sparse. We do know, and have long predicted, lockdowns kill. It's happening now. You may choose to attribute them to imagined vax damage, and some of that may eventually be proven. But evidence of more harm from the government policies is clear, for those who want to see it. If you find evidence of vax injuries, other than circumstantial, let us know.
As Malone says, the problem with medical evidence is extensive confounding factors. Jumping to conclusions is often wrong. If you don't want a vax, don't. If you worry about others, they probably don't care. RNA vax is solid technology, and is an inevitable part of our future. Progress always hurts a few. It's how we learn. But progress is how we make our future better.
Yup--I used to work across the street from OneAmerica.
The Indiana legislature is likely to set Davison et al back on their heels with a testing option requirement at employer expense. Most of us Hoosiers do not like these crazy, top-down mandates.
I've blogged quite a bit about COVID in Indiana if anyone is interested: https://relievemypain.blogspot.com/search/label/COVID19
I was kicked out of CoronavirusIndiana subreddit for what? For posting stats on Covid breakthrough infections.
Crazy! Those stats are on the state's coronavirus website.
These official stats are considered "misleading" by the crazy and stupid moderator of CoronavirusIndiana subreddit.
Reddit is a refuge for libtard losers and they are generally the first caldidates for self-depopulation.
Can you believe that guy actually promotes the death shot while simultaneously providing data showing that the death shot is cause of the mortality increase. The level of cognitive dissonance and brainwashing is staggering.
It is outright mind boggling
Unless he can't add 2 and 2 together it is beyond belief that he would even advocate for much less MANDATE the covid vax on his employees. I hope they all tell him "NO".
I love the fact that you fact check people you agree with. Now that IS SCIENCE.
Thank you for the comment. Trust seeking means I have to fact check everything. There are bogus antivax articles out there, I try hard not to quote those.
The scientific method is to first fact check yourself (repeatedly), then any citations relied on (always the methods and the supplemental methods where the bodies are often hidden)
In the process, one may learn something the writer of the cited article did not explore, opening an avenue for new research and funding and research.
I have found very few MSM articles on Covid accurate (or truthful) wrt the peer review literature, which in many cases has the truth hidden in supplemental material, particularly where industry funding is involved.
A lot of people think science is settled. Science is never settled it always must be treated with skepticism as new data is available (not so much for new models).
that is the most insane 3mins if my entire life. The cognitive dissonance of this guy is a 12 sigma event......
If you can get monthly excess mortality data, then subtract from that suicides and homicides, that would put an even finer point on the general decline in health in that age cohort.
Let me know if you would like to try it, sounds like a great idea. But keep in mind that vaccines do have neurological effects and may give impulse to suicidal ideation.
Yep, we can't really discount the homicides or even accidental deaths, either. Having a vax-induced stroke while driving down the freeway will never be connected to the shot, but I guarantee it's happened more than once in the last year.
Look at the last few weeks of this year on Ben's graph
Go to this CDC website and scroll down to Table 3 under "Comorbidities and Other Conditions"
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
The CDC presents detailed causes of death that can be obtained by month (or year) and age group. The data can be downloaded for analysis with software tools.
Note that Influenza & Pneumonia are over 50% of COVID.
For Suicide I found this CDC page:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db427.htm
Find "What are the death rates for the 10 leading causes of death?"
The CDC claims: "Suicide dropped from the list of 10 leading causes in 2020. Causes of death are ranked according to number of deaths (1). The 10 leading causes accounted for 74.1% of all deaths in the United States in 2020."
Remember that drug OD's are off the charts, too, and I am sure other "deaths of dispair.". No doubt driven by lockdowns and other interventions.
Totally agree. But I'm interested in raw, all-cause physiological failures.
Ive heard (from testimonies of vaccine injured) that they know other vaccine injured who have taken their own lives due to the struggle to be recognized/properly treated. This whole COVID mess (but especially the suppression of safe, cheap drugs, lockdowns, and vaccines) has killed/harmed so many.
Statement from the "absolute Excess" tab at the same site "“To date, for the year 2021, United States reported 195,641 deaths of 25-44 years ages. Expected deaths thus far, were 135,916. That is an increase of 59,725 deaths (+43.9%).”"
It is difficult to directly compare to the CEO statement, as their customers will have a demographic skew and it is unclear if they take the entire basket of customers and calculate the increase in mortality or take the increase in mortality for smaller age ranges and then average those. That said...the CEO statement and the CDC data is not inconsistent.
The CEO is talking about people who are on employer's plans, they are not drug junkies and not formerly (prior to the pandemic) Basket cases.
Indeed! The corporate life insurance demographics likely skew older, higher income, and male compared to the overall population. Confounding factors, but small compared to ~40% .
Glad to see affirmation. I just checked Met Life and insiders have not yet been selling. Don't know what the shorts on insurance stocks are doing but if other insurers see a similar uptick, for whatever reason there are huge consequences ahead. Perhaps another industry too big to fail.
All of that aside from the mounting evidence of the coming disasters. At 82 my horizon is not the same as working person at 52 with a wife and three kids. Lord help the politicians. Trying to spin this with 80% + vaccinated will be very hard. Darwin is a very ruthless principle.
Looks like the same in Europe with 15-64 years? https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality
Good job, Igor! Exactly what many of us knew is going to happen. Global vax genocide in progress as planned by the evil elites. Many people just waking up now to the centuries old plot. " 'Since the beginning of the Corona operation, many people began to realise that their governments have been taken over by very powerful and extremely evil forces, making political leaders worldwide move in unison to unleash unprecedented tyranny on their citizens.' : The Hidden History of the Revived Roman Empire Jesuit Influence and Infiltration of The US and World Governments. Secret Treaty Of Verona https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/the-hidden-history-of-the-revived
Maybe future life insurance policies will include along with the questions about smoking questions about whether or not the applicant received the covid vax.