A cynic might almost suspect that there is an attempt to eliminate the indigenous middle class population to be replaced by (illegal) immigraants to do the required manual labour.! Outrageous I know but in these days of the WEF and the Globalist Reset, this might be why "you will have nothing and you will be happy"? Perhaps what they meant is that you should feel lucky just to be alive!!
It wasn't like the authorities didn't try to get BAME people living in economically deprived areas to get jabbed though. They seemed to be genuinely irritated at the time that black people especially were not queueing up to get sterilised, injured and dead. Combine this with the fact that they keep trying to push these 'vaccines' onto the Third World, the fact that Gates and GAVI have previous form in promoting sterilising drugs in the Third World and you'll see that the bigger picture is one of global depopulation, not just wiping out the predominantly white middle classes here in Blighty.
I think they're just stupid enough to truly believe this vaccine is their savior. Maybe on a subconscious level it's their Freudian death drive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive
The illegal alien invasion of western countries is for the short-term purpose of cultural destabilization and to break the social welfare systems financially and functionally, then to out-breed the indigenous populations of Europe, and the population of the U.S. as a "replacement migration" scheme. The invaders will be much easier to control because of their generally very poor educational status and lower I.Q.s (being mostly from lower classes in impoverished areas where less-than-optimal-nutrition is the norm). Controllable Masses are easily preyed upon and then exterminated when the Ruling Overlords are ready to finish THEM off, too (after having served their purpose of assisting in the extermination of the smarter people they supplanted).
My impression is that it was the best educated that were most easily fooled and manipulated during the past 21/2 years, and my observation matches today's post assessment by Igor; These immigration waves of people entering the 1st world will behave in unpredictable ways and will act on instinct and the globalists will likely not be able to control them.
Resistance is U shaped. People with PhDs have higher levels of vaccine "hesistancy", although it's not a big difference. My guess is that that hesitancy is hard earned - the children of people with STEM degrees have been HARD hit with autism, and a LOT of the people in the STEM community know the vaccines have been a big cause of it.
Actually, I was not referring to "vaccine hesitancy" in particular, but rather to a - healthy - distrust of what was going on in general from 2020 onwards. The first people I could talk to about my conviction that the measures taken weren't about health were not highly educated friends, but rather, what you would call, "ordinary" people. That was back in March 2020.
I don't know if low IQ people are necessarily any easier to manipulate. Those with middling-high IQs, the "midwits", seem easiest to manipulate. Maybe it's even a plan to drive all these migrants back to the third world, or segregate them out of places where they don't want them to gangrape or run cars over people or set bombs. Passive-aggressive racism, because they're too polite to openly discuss the issue.
true, Immigrants don't know the freedoms that the US citizens are granted in the constitution and the legal system. they will vote for anyone and just do what they are told, especially if they are getting a check.
The WEF crowd. They talk too much, I wont comment, except the two most important. One, they said Science is no longer about Truth, it is about power. Second, they said the elite are creating an Ark for themselves and the rest of humanity will drown.
The Xi Mafia, they want to kill everyone but are amazingly patient. They actually make the vaccine for Pfizer and the nano lipid particle. If someone wants proof, let me know.
The Fake Biden Administration, he is out to lunch, but the UN and deep state want 100 million starving immigrants by 2024 to create enough chaos to "reimagine" a country that includes all of North and South America. Lara Logan has a UN leaker that says this is what they are doing. The looney no fertilizers is part of it.
Actually, I understand the vaccine, or ONE of them, at least, was invented by DARPA, which makes perfect sense. As to who manufactured it, does it matter? It comes from the DOD. That should open everyone's eyes, if they wrap their brains around it...
Makes sense to me. I've been hearing about some future thing called "The Event." WTF do you imagine that might be? JFC. And I think maybe the "ark" is actually underground... Apparently there's a whole network of "living spaces" somewhere, or in various places... I have to say I think these NWO Useless Eaters BELONG underground, but not still breathing...
This guy was told that the fighting age males flooding our shores are in fact NATO troops! Truly shocking if true. Worth a watch: https://gettr.com/streaming/p1s8oym3573?
That's a one hour 15 minute interview with an English funeral director. I've seen an interview with him before. He's definitely interesting, but could you point me to the minute mark where the NATO troops are discussed?
Thanks. I watched the video from that point to the end. I guess it should be obvious from your name, but you (and he) are referring to England. There are comments about a lot of the illegals flooding the US southern border being "military age men", with the implied possibility that they could be military. I haven't heard anything beyond that though.
Possibly, but if I wasn't thinking specifically of the military angle, I'd say "younger men" or something similar, and I think most other people would too.
You're exactly right. The middle class is overwhelmingly white, hence all this anti-white rhetoric. They are being demonized in preparation for something worse than even dispossession, I fear.
I would call it an "autogenocide", a term coined to describe the genocide in Cambodia. Except I don't think they were committing suicide the way White people are with these vaccines, they were just killing other Cambodians that didn't fit into their ideal for a society. Maybe they're just in a hurry for all these Boomers to die off so they can buy out all their houses.
Sounds reasonable to me! I think people are still, for the most part, and I'm including us "Truthers," unable to really comprehend the incredible Evil we are facing.
Quite enjoyed the pagans participating in celebration of Catholic hero earlier this week. Bet their hatred of their ancestors would have stopped short of giving up yhe holiday off
I don't think they anticipated the skills of the lower economic classes. These are not people who got things on a plate, these are people who have no 'safe spaces', people who had to understand behaviour, BS and courage. Think how smart the average market trader is, they don't get fooled easily. Fear has to be more than a TV 'expert' for these guys.
America has 11 million open jobs, and as of September 22, 2022 there is only about 6.2 million unemployed? Huh, they only need 5 million additional manual labors, and this year there was 2 million illegal aliens that crossed our border so I don't think that's a good reason to depopulate America, do you?
They really don’t need us for labour. Artificial intelligence and machine learning is accelerating. The robots out of Boston Dynamics can dance and do parkour. And this is only what they ALLOW us to see. Their technology must be decades more advanced than we thought it was.
Well, you may be right. But I suspect that, given what we've seen of these people so far, they know how to kill us, scare the shit out of us, and lie to us... They don't seem to really have the kind of knowledge or creativity they THINK they have. They've fucked up a lot of what they're trying to do, and there's really VERY little chance, considering the profound complications of what they're trying to do, that they will be successful in ANY of it, other than killing off a whole lot of people. having robots that can dance and do parkour doesn't mean much to me. Robots can't think, they can't feel things emotionally, they can't make decisions, they can only calculate and be assistance in like, surgery, or manufacturing, say. I just don't see the Star Trek thing happening. Of course, they want us to believe they are waaaaay ahead of the game. I don't think so. So far, most of their claims are just that-- claims. That's my take. And even if they can kill off a lot of us, there will still be waaaaay more of us than of them. They'll never succeed. Tyranny never works. They will cause incredible harm and trouble and chaos, but they won't succeed.
All high tech needs mass production to be cost effective. They need millions of customers to buy the products to warrant building the computers they need for ai.
Think of what usually happens in tyranical takeovers. The Bolsheviks will serve as a point.
They get rid of the influencers first. The bourgois. The higher educated and wealthier people are targeted. Whether you do that via brute force or by flattery...is inconsequential. Flattery in fact is a preferred method...as it is voluntary...and does not so quickly arouse suspicion of crime.
Tell the masses...do the smart thing...get jabbed. Do the right thing. Follow the science. Concensus says. Most scientists agree. Doctors highly reccomend.
All of these affect the psyche and play into social compliance of those most needing to feel they belong among the upper class intellectually and monetarily. Tribalism in a sense.
Their egos make them low hanging fruit. I just thought of the music world...how quickly all the former rebels of the status quo are now the most vocal pushers of the same.
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Indigenous would not be word I'd use to describe the middle class, unless your a member of the original inhabitants of the particular place you live, and worldwide there is not much middle class that fit in the category.
Do you really believe governments are trying to replace the population? Do you think that any government could really accomplish that feat when most populations out number there governments?
If that was the case there would have never been a United States of America. Medical depopulation purposely is not even rational or logical or achievable on a world scale.
...Do you think that any government could really accomplish that feat when most populations out number their governments?...
Not too hot on history are you. It only takes a few to control the many - Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot.
Besides governments are being manipulated by the billionaire psychopaths - Soros, Gates, Schwab etc They determine what happens and have decided that they want what remains of the Earth's resources and if that means culling the Earth's population then that is what they will do. That is what they ARE doing.
If you took the time to comprehend my comment instead of engaging your index finger prematurely, you'd find I used the word most middle class? Or words to the effect. Thanks for your comment.
"English" is a mixture from other European subgroups colonizng the islands: Anglo Saxons, Nordic, Norman, and Germanic, (or so . . . history classes were a VERY long time ago!)
The true indigenous English (and British) were scattered tribes of 'Celts' who were not of the same race, but shared common cultures and customs and they settled in the British Isles from about 500 BC onwards. There's not much Celtic blood in England now; most English genetic heritage is from the the invasions of the Angles and the Saxons. Cultural heritage is far more important than genetic purity or bloodlines. What they are trying to do is erase British culture and history. That matters. If we lose our cultural identity, we lose our country and we lose ourselves and our national identity.
In fact there is plenty of Celtic blood - the Anglo Saxons, Vikings etc who entered the coastal areas in particular bred with the Celtic women. The dna is there, especially in the matrilineal lines, but the Celtic languages were wiped out in England, as we can see from the early English language and the village names. A few place names survived - rivers and mountains.
Ancestry.com say that in England as a whole, the proportion of Irish (Celtic) DNA is around 20%. In Scotland and NI, the proportion is twice as high, where Celtic DNA dominates over that of Anglo-Saxon and West European.
So the Celts were the original colonizers of Britain. Interesting.
I suppose one could say that the ONLY truly indigenous group is the descendants of the equitoral Africans where humanity originally evolved. Everybody else are later migrants and colonizers!
Neanderthals were the original inhabitants of the Eurasian continent. Modern humans from Africa invaded much later, but even so, Neanderthals and modern humans share a common ancestor on the African continent. Neanderthals lived long enough in Eurasia to evolve separately from Homo Sapiens and thus became a separate species of human, so the true indigenous Europeans really are Neanderthals and I think it's likely they made it to the British Isles during periods when there was no sea separating us from the continent. Certainly, Neanderthal DNA persists in modern humans from interbreeding during the wave of invasions of 'Out Of Africa' modern humans near the end of the last Ice Age.
That's good news, I despise those "Establsihemnt" (correct spelling - establishment) trolls; maybe you can take a spelling lesson before you engage your index finger on the "post" icon.
It's called a typo. We all make them, even Establishment trolls like you. Shame your pedantic comments add no substance to the debate which is perhaps why they don't attract many upvotes?
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Just to "square the circle" as it were, your spelling is awful, it should be "we're" (as in the truncated form of "we are") not "were". I told you that even Establishment Trolls make typos, or perhaps in your case you wouldn't know the difference?
Perfect way to end such a heavenly "conversation" with someone who clearly overestimates his/her/its intellectual capabilities and has nothing to add of any substance, so resorting to pedantic comments on trivia and ad hominems. The typical mark of a Troll.
Not "replace" the population, DECIMATE it. Too many people to have to try and control... They've been trying to depopulate the world for decades, centuries, maybe, but certainly since the early 1900's, after figuring out that people survive much better with clean food and water, and sanitation generally... Hand washing was a HUGE jump in dealing with health problems. Eugenics has been around for quite a while.
That recent study comparing several thousand vaccinated children to unvaccinated children makes it pretty clear: the UNvaccinated "run circles around" the vaccinated, health-wise, in every metric!
CNN says whatever goes wrong is Trump's fault and whatever goes right is Bidens doing. If they ever finally do admit what a disaster the vaccine is they'll blame it on Trump
They should have suspected this in the first place. What's going on is literally a TDS BlueAnon's wet dream. Trump unleashing a deadly vaccine on the world and causing more genocide than Hitler... even using the military to control the media and brainwash people into taking it... I see Twitter accounts that predicted this that later threw it down the memory hole.
Maybe both are wrong- it is a vulture, a carrion species. The "crypto" currency mining the decaying microchipped corpse is a rumor that seems plausible based on recognition of greed, and the BlueTooth codes being picked up near fresh graves of jabbed people. I don't have any reference link for that. Saw it a while ago.
I’m so sorry for your daughter. Consider looking at a low carb high natural fat way of eating. The Obesity Code book by Dr Jason Fung (yes, applicable even for we who are not obese, don’t let the title put you off). Ivor Cummins out of Ireland - at TheFatEmporer.com or FatEmperor.com (and check my spelling of “Emperor” because I often get it wrong).
Veg oils (canola, soy, safflower, corn, sunflower, cottonseed) are all very bad for us and cause fatty liver. Get rid of them and replace w real butter, avocado oil (but check for reputable brands… many sub veg oil for part), coconut oil, tallow, ghee, etc.
Fatty liver due to insulin resistance is insanely common in younger folks nowadays, even pre-jab. Due to veg oils in our diets, highly processed foods, and probably environmental toxins. I wish your daughter well.
In the same vein, I'm reading this book now and it's fantastic: "Carnivore Cure: The Ultimate Elimination Diet to Attain Optimal Health and Heal Your Body" by Judy Cho. Very impressive book and it explains everything you might want to know about all aspects of food.
The usual Vit's D and C, Zinc and Quercetin, and I've read that taking the skins of a grapefruit and a couple or three lemons, simmer them in water for an hour, cool for an hour, then drink... very cleansing. I don't know if this works for everything we're looking at, but it sure can't hurt.
It would help against spike. I learned of histamine sensitivity though, and citrus was making that worse for me. I use mango peel with outer rind of pomegranate (inner I use in food), thyme, and a little dandelion in my current mix of pom plus tea.
Same thing happened to my daughter-in-law. She is in the military. The most physically fit girl I know. Two shots. Will not get another. Can the liver get better from this? I've been curious to know.
See this posting made on 10/13/22. Will blow you away! HYPERBARIC OXYGEN TREATMENT can apparently reverse “various “irreversible” conditions. It is shown to be effective with the vaccine injured.
Watch video & then spread far & wide. There are ways to defeat the bio-weapon. And supposedly this treatment has been known since the 1920’s (maybe earlier?).
I like to go with things that require the least amount of “experts”, even holistic, and least cost. I learned BodyTalk, Field Consciousness, the liver cleanse method, but especially breatharianism.
But something simple that takes very little learning and is cheap: food grade hydrogen peroxide, iodine, Epsom salts. All very cheap and powerful for amazing benefits when applied correctly.
With fg h2o2 bathing in it, and using it in combination with epsom salt cleanses (oral) and enemas.
Recovering the colon and then toning and strengthening it along with all of the core and back, is essential to cleansing the liver. Then, the kidneys. The skin is fairly easy. Soaks of h2o2 and Epsom salts with scrubs. Dead skin falls off and if you do a h2o2 oral cleanse which takes a weeks you will soon never “need” body odor control products ever again. Cleaning the body inside and out will allow the body to move toxic load fast and effectively so that it uses the healing methods of fever, inflammation and cancer much less and moves up to higher vibration and more effective healing mechanisms.
I agree with that approach. I would only say that you can cleanse the colon with coffee, if you can stand to "waste" it that way, ha ha; and also be careful with the hydrogen peroxide, because it can be quite harsh if used very often, hard on the skin and tissues of mouth, etc. Cheers.
Consider looking at a low carb high natural fat way of eating. The Obesity Code book by Dr Jason Fung (yes, applicable even for we who are not obese, don’t let the title put you off). Ivor Cummins out of Ireland - at TheFatEmporer.com or FatEmperor.com (and check my spelling of “Emperor” because I often get it wrong).
Veg oils (canola, soy, safflower, corn, sunflower, cottonseed) are all very bad for us and cause fatty liver. Get rid of them and replace w real butter, avocado oil (but check for reputable brands… many sub veg oil for part), coconut oil, tallow, ghee, etc.
Very few people will never move in this direction since it is so incompatible with what people think of as normal and possible.
Breatharianism.
I came up with a logical, left brain lattice to scan intuition years ago. In 2019, March it produced that I should move from Maryland to Montana. Did that two months later.
Pandemic hit only months later. I was in a much better situation to withstand the agenda and fallout.
The next thing that came up was breatharianism. Before even getting a chance to research it my intuitive results for eating and drinking - which was based on Dr. Fuhrman’s Nutritarian approach which is the most sustainable, satisfying, interesting, enjoyable and effective way I’ve come across to this point - along with some Andreas Moritz principles. Anyhow, my morning water was anywhere from 3-5.5 16 oz glasses of water. But that morning after the intuition it came up as 4 oz. The next day the same. And no food came up. By the end of the week I was much thinner but also high energy, joint soreness disappeared in a lot of places and muscles were like steel and my strength up improving.
I drink fluids mostly but eat food here and there when I wish to enjoy it, usually offerings from others at the rare gatherings. But my link to Field has grown deep and wide.
It feels sooooo good to know that what the globalists are about to do in terms of food shortages, famine and pushing fake foods is not going to be a direct threat to me. It’s also great saving hundreds every month.
I’m somewhat surprised to hear you say that too many people see a LCHF way of eating as incompatible with normal.
Yeah, it took us about six months to feel sort of at ease and natural with meal planning this way. But the health benefits were enormous. Now, it seems weird when our kid’s youth group wants to serve pop tarts for breakfast. 🙄
There are growing numbers of people eating this way. It takes will you change, but it is definitely not impossible.
It would be good to go to a body talk practitioner after reading up on body talk and use it as the center of health and medical approach for integrated holistic medicine. It would probably recommend the liver cleanse method of Andreas Moritz.
Pomegranate peel products can help liver injury. Cutting back on fructose is a good idea too. It can only be used by the liver and excess is stored there as fat. High fructose corn syrup is leading to an epidemic of fatty liver disease in teens and young adults. It can lead to a liver transplant within 15 years, or less is being seen. All the corn syrup sweetened beverages are a problem. Spike makes it worse. Vitamin A and carotenoids would be making it worse too if that is part of the 'new' problem - figure that something changed - life is no longer the same. That is a difficult transition to make with chronic illness but it helps. Sad that 20 year olds are having to face it though.
Once upon a time, the FDA had up a website with the "possible" side effects of the mRNA vaxxine. Autoimmune disorders was one of them, along with all the other horrible diseases that went from "possible" to "actual."
Umm... everyone going to the site above be forewarned: Chesnut is really super smart, and what he's been uncovering is absolutely terrifying. Even if you don't understand it, it's terrifying.
A good friend of mine has autoimmune hepatitis that came on after jabs. Very sick and the meds she takes causes diabetes along with it. Shots every day. Her life is crap now. She hasn’t a clue. I
See this posting made on 10/13/22. Will blow you away! HYPERBARIC OXYGEN TREATMENT can apparently reverse “various “irreversible” conditions. It is shown to be effective with the vaccine injured.
Watch video & then spread far & wide. There are ways to defeat the bio-weapon. And supposedly this treatment has been known since the 1920’s (maybe earlier?).
Retinoid Toxicity is likely involved in liver damage and I am working on that in theory rather than in a clinic - it is likely causal for ME/CFS in LongCovid or after Epstein-Barr virus and may involve a gene change caused by the viral infection in order to help it infect endothelial or epithelial cells.
Yes. Are we all now up to date that these vaccines are a miracle gift from the DOD, and NOT pharmaceutical companies? Uh huh! That should clear up any questions, no?
We have known for years that Western Industrialized Society was unsustainable at current levels of population and that the wealthier people use the most resources. The ruling elites are doing something about it with the Plandemic.
Unsustainable according to whom? The food production has kept well ahead of the population growth. There are enough fossil fuel resources to keep things running for several hundred years if needed. Given human ingenuity I would say that we will find other ways of keeping things running long before we ran out fossil fuels. Climate change? Seriously? Have a look at the Roman records - they were growing vineyards in places far up north in the UK, places which are still too cold now to support that sort of crop. Greenland was settled by the Vikings because it was livable. It is all BS and it plays right in the hands of a bunch of psychos that would love to rule every corner of this world. How can these psychos get away with things that normally would cause upheaval? It is an emergency, it is a crisis - throw out the rule book and do this before the sky is falling. After the Covid scam, hopefully people will start to wake up to the reality.
I think that the quality of the food depends on the culture and the emphasis put on good quality product. Some of the things that were common practice in the UK for example would have been blasphemous in other parts of Europe (cow feed was incomprehensible - the cows were effectively cannibals). Similarly, in Belgium where some farms were using motor oil in the chicken and cow feed. BTW, the quality has gone done the drain for most things. Most things made in China are abysmal. Take for example washing machines - they used to last decades. Now if you get five years out of one, you are doing well. The quality of the clothing material is just appalling but people buy it anyway. To be honest I do understand it though as most people have problems paying key bills like electricity or gas.
100% agreement on psychos wanting to get the hoi polloi sick. Have a look at the concerted effort to get bug flour normalized. Never thought I would have to check for it but there you have it. Now it is necessary.
Why, when the concept of 'Climate Change' comes up, do people think we're mad? What's wrong with just trying to live more sustainably...simply because you can?! What's wrong with trying to live more in harmony with the Earth instead of raping the world of its non-renewable resources and saying things like:
"There are enough fossil fuel resources to keep things running for several hundred years if needed. Given human ingenuity I would say that we will find other ways of keeping things running long before we ran out fossil fuels."
I think you'll find humans would only start focusing on other energy sources when they were but 15 years shy of running out! Humans aren't too smart in general. They act when and only if they have to, like a lazy lion.
If we want more non-renewable resources, we might just have to wait a few million years+ for all that plant matter to decompose enough. Not really likely. So then we move to nuclear power....and take MORE resources from the earth...and then we shoot the spent fuel rods into space because too many people are getting cancer from these rods buried all over the place....and the fish are getting weird or dying out with those that got dumped in the deep ocean...and then when all else fails, we try to colonise another planet....
In the meantime, we continue burning fossil fuels at stupidly high levels, polluting our air and ruining our health. Having done a Geology degree and having been a Chiropractor for 16 years, it seems a bit stupid for people to effectively shit in their water. Why not just make things work better over generations? And no, that does not include everyone eating bugs and living in high rises and doing everything the govt tells them to!
The thing is, climates DO change, that's pretty normal. Sometimes it's colder and sometimes it's warmer, and sometimes it's stormier, and there are levels upon levels of patterns at play.
There are some of us out there that would like us to all live in harmony a bit better - because if we don't, some crazies like Bill Gates & the WEF are going to crack down on us all and make most people adhere to their nutjob policies - which are basically unemotive ways to move forward as an effective insect colony.
I'm never going to wake up to us using up all the earth's non-renewable resources just because we can. We have a duty of care to this planet. It is our home. And we should respect it. Would we just take take take from our parents all the time, or would we give back sometimes? I think we've taken quite enough for quite long enough, and it's time to stop being so greedy as a species. BUT there are so many ways we can do this - kindly, ethically & humanely. People might do better looking at this from another angle.
When I was in college I took an ecological science class. We were told that the world would be 100% depleted of every drop of oil in 22 years. I never forgot that.
However, I took that class in 1990. 2012 has come and gone and lo and behold, there is still oil to be found on planet Earth.
It is not just oil - there are massive resources of natural gas that are easily accessible so whenever I hear that we hit peak oil and we are done, I know that I am listening to someone with an agenda rather than someone that is honest and knows the facts.
Ummm...all I suggested was that humans would only start looking for other energy sources when they were down to their last 15 years of non-renewables. I didn't say WHEN that 15 years was. You are putting words in my mouth!!! Of course we have more than 15 years' worth of non-renewables in the ground. Perhaps you could've read my comment correctly, or perhaps I could've said "humans would only start SERIOUSLY focusing on PERMANENT ALTERNATE energy sources when they were but 15 years shy of running out OF NON-RENEWABLES" - would that make more sense to you?!
I still stand by my argument that humans aren't interested in change until they have their hand forced. And right now, even with covid and the crazy WEF, their hand is STILL not forced. For the most part, it will literally take oil wells running dry and natural gas reserves all becoming empty for people to go 'oh, what are we going to do now?'...! And that, my friend, is MANY years off, and so humans will do nothing to try to live more in harmony with the Earth in the meantime.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that the climate change or whatever it is called these days is a massive scam that is run by the same filth that gave Covid and the jabs. I am for cleaner living but I also want for things to improve not get worse. Smart people do things better - they do not go back to the stone age for the sake of Gaia. Every generation before the 60s tried to do things to improve the quality of life and ensure that their kids would do even better. That changed quickly and a lot of nonsense has become "the standard". The idea that we use too much shows that anti-human nihilism is accepted "wisdom" and fits better in a cult than a civilised world. Who judges what is too much and what is right? Typically, frauds or people that have no idea what they are talking about. I still remember the discussion between a local farmer and an "expert" in land management that came to educate the farmer on how to do "things in a sustainable manner". The idiot's advice was to stop burning the excess growth because that will improve the overall environment. Fortunately, the farmer ignored the "advice" and in the process kept his house and barns from burning down when a spot fire took hold on the property. These days all "clean living" is geared towards doing incredibly stupid stuff (how many people know the exploitation and pollution associated with an electric car?) because it is trendy or alternatively, we have give up fundamental stuff when it is not necessary (give up milk and replace with some chemical concoction that may have some traces of almond or something similar). If one were to do a realistic evaluation of the everything that is supposedly sustainable and echo-friendly, the results would be that these are massive scams that do great deal more harm than good and involve giving a bunch of non-elected filth absolute power over everything. Germany is an awesome example. They went green and spent more than 800 billion euro on wind and solar facilities and incentives. Solar in Germany, where in winter it gets dark at 4:30pm and it stays that way until 8am then next day. They were also dumb enough to close down their nuclear power plants though their country is tectonically stable. What did this get them? Most likely a bankrupt country that will shiver in winter. No thanks. I lived in communism and guess what? It was not fun living in poverty and Gaia did not get better. The people in the West need to wake up to the fact that all these peddlers of the "sustainable" living are complete frauds (Al Gore is a quintessential example) or are funded by world players that want complete dominance over the world. China builds coal power plants every week while the lemmings in the West demolish theirs. Utter insanity. In Victoria they have had power cuts because the idiot in charge went all green. The Chinese must be rolling on the floor laughing at the West's stupidity and ignorance.
Sure, countries sometimes make stupid decisions that don't suit their terrain. Maybe they should make better informed decisions. Or maybe they're just human and honestly can't do any better.
Even reading the science on it all, my Instinct says burning excessive fossils fuels (note I wrote 'excessive') is dumb and nuclear power is ludicrous.
I expected better from the Germans to be honest. Their energy policies have been expensive and monumentally stupid for decades. It is as if they were in a competition to prove that they were the dumbest bunch in Europe and they paid stupendous amounts of money to prove it. Nuclear power has had a bad reputation and it is based on the assumption that we have no idea how to reuse or store properly the spent fuel. All nonsense but it is very catchy and gets people really worked up about it. The propaganda media that was so good at convincing people that the jabs are "safe and effective" and "stop transmission" are very much responsible for the hysteria (as usual the media is responsible for propagating and enforcing massive lies). BTW, the money for the campaign against nuclear power came from ... the Middle East (yep, the Arabs really care about the environment of the kuffa countries). If one is objective and informed, the opinion changes quickly. Ask the French - they get their power from nuclear and it worked out OK. In fact they are smart enough to build more.
This is a great little article, even though it's from 2012. The comments are also very interesting.
Because humans are such great marketers to the point that they are willing to crush others' leaps forwards (think fossil fuel industry trying to crush their opposition), how are we, as a species, ever going to move forwards?
There's ALWAYS someone crying "It's safe & effective!" because they want to sell THEIR thing - regardless of whether it's helpful or good or safe or effective!
I don't trust nuclear because I don't trust humans. And because no matter what you do with spent fuel, there's still a LOT of half-lives to consider!! And my life and my grandkids' lives (and everyone else's!) will be well and truly over before we've even got this spent fuel rod business half-figured out. WE KNOW there's a radiation problem and we KNOW we have to bury them, like forever, but we still keep using it. Kind of reminds me of the heroin addict: "I know it's bad, but man! It feels so good!"
Safe and effective.
Riiiight.
See, this lack of trust is what KEEPS me alive - and if you converse with many people who didn't take the jab, you will find that there is a high percentage of them who are 'survivors' already (bad childhood, poor relationships, being oppressed in life by people/govt, bullying etc etc). Maybe we're lucky to be alive, but maybe we listened to our Intuition as well. Doesn't your intuition worry at least slightly about radiation risks on our biological system - and our DNA future - from using nuclear fuel?
The fight over climate change has caused us to ignore
1) Oceans fished out
2) loss of soil nutrition
3) mass extinctions
And a ton of other serious issues.
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We've been living off a massive inheritance of natural resources, seemingly trying to spend them as fast as we can, and taking for granted the ability of the earth to transmute any poisons we put in it.
That is insane.
Not to mention a simple concept like respect for nature.
I personally prefer nature that's green trees and oceans and even soil microbes to humans! Humans are Life, too, but they just don't know when to stop. When Nature puts the finger on us, we just press ahead anyway. Madness comes to mind.
People rarely see the big picture and are not so good as extrapolation. They see the Here And Now. They don't stop to think about the soil quality (which is where we grow our food), just that food turns up in supermarkets, so all must be well (enough). But have you not noticed how food, even organic, doesn't taste as good as it used to? Food is BLAND now - and that is because the soil is no good. And if we keep doing what we're doing, food won't be food at all in the future. People are hurtling towards dystopia and they can't, no, WON'T see it. They call you and I mad and continue on their hellbent path. All we're doing is asking people to consider other options. But it seems that is too hard for most people :-(
We had a hybrid solar system + batteries for 5+ years (until we sold that place). It was fantastic. Amazingly efficient system. And when the locals all got blackouts...we didn't! Silent electricity. Awesome. We're getting one on our new place soon.
I think the elite have been forced to embrace solar. They neg it as much as possible all the while pouring money into solar farms. solar puts a spanner in their CO2 is killing the planet BS. Battery technology and mining is moving leaps and bounds (IBATF extracts lithium direct from brine with no pollution). Soon your car will have solar paint, get 20 miles a day free into its batteries and be topped up by house solar.
Robyn I honestly don’t think that most of us here are all about raping Mother Earth for all her resources until she flops over dead. What needs to happen first is for the culling of the best and brightest to immediately stop. For all we know the person who would have invented that which would have saved us all will now no longer be born because his or her mother died suddenly and unexpectedly at 16, or 20 or some other outrageous age because she was helping the world by getting a Covid shot. We must stop the travesty at hand to have hope for the future.
Agreed. Most do not want to totally ruin the Earth or have unnecessary deaths. But perhaps we are MEANT to have this travesty occur because it is the culmination of Modern Times and could almost be considered a homage to how we have lost our Instinct.
Or perhaps those who are here today are not actually MEANT to be here - except by the grace of modern medicine? After all, if you give life, you can take it away. Modern medicine has certainly taken a lot of lives, but it has also extended lives. Now they are taking them. In some twisted way, I think they have the right. If multiple generations are not going to stand up for their Instinct and instead hand it over to TPTB, you can't exactly complain that you're not getting treated well. People. in the western world especially, have been living in a dreamworld for decades. Nature just says it's time to burst that bubble, I guess...
No one is saying we have to just keep going with gas and oil and pollution.....what they have learned is there is no shortage, so stop the fear mongering of scarcity of energy into the consciousness and let’s buckle down and find cleaner energy . It’s hard to concentrate on new renewables when you are in fear all the time. I haven’t spoken to one person who didn’t know we have to clean up and change our mindsets about energy. There are quite a few patents that are not being allowed that would solve this problem.
But, given that most people read and watch only MSM sources, they have mostly bought into the ideas that 'the end is nigh' and 'something must be done'.
We can only hope that the coming winter (in cold places like the UK) will convince more of them that the current direction will make the rest of their lives increasingly miserable.
I hope you wake up to the damage you can do.. clodhopping around the world destroying everything in sight... time to go extinct don't you think? Or would you rather take us all down with you?
I am well awake to nonsense pushed by a lot of either ignorant or devious people. It is a free world. Anyone who thinks that the answer is to go back to the stone age because of the climate or environment crisis is welcomed to get a head start. Go build a mud shack in the middle of nowhere and live off the land. Without fire or meat - watch out for that nasty carbon. In 40-50 years, everything can be re-evaluated based on actual evidence of how the world progresses, not some made up nonsense compiled by some dim bulbs that never stepped out of a city. No one is stopping those who want to live like our ancestors did 5000 years ago, as in before larger settlements were becoming common. As you put it so well, if that is what some people want, why I should have to go down with them? I had same nonsense preached to me about the Covid jab - "You endanger me, anti-vaxxer! How can you be so selfish and kill the elderly?".
Absolutely. The ones pushing this nonsense are also the ones that are "more equal" than us and need to stay around. Isn't their selfless sacrifice touching?
I'm for depopulation Don, but the natural method when more affluent people decide to not have kids.. when the kids are so damn dysfunctional that they can't mate... That's the non violent way it should happen... others say nuclear war is the way... they're psychos tho.
Malthus has been used by the ruling classes to justify their thefts of the commons for generations. But just on its own, Malthusianism is just wrong, not just morally wrong but factually wrong. The Science of Scarcity of Thatcher and Reagan will give way to a new way of thinking more like that of FDR and JFK.
Ah, but I have already said that I am happy to go if depopulation is on the agenda. BUT I'm not going without a fight, and without a good cause. Currently I feel I can do more living than dead.
You keep going the way you are and we will be living in a new stone age.. not just the climat my friend.. plenty of systems are collapsing.. fish in the sea, insects on the land.. going going going.....
Heh, I will take my chances. The sky has been falling since the 70's and it is still falling. This end of the world nonsense reminds of the cultists that keep warning the non-believers and then having to re-adjust each time a new end of days date passed by.
However, as I said before, it is a free world and I am very much of the opinion "Live and let live". As long as people stop pestering me with this sort of nonsense, all good. The saddest thing about all this is that things can be done to improve life and because of doom predictors we let opportunities pass us by. The "experts" were saying that the East Coast of Australia was going to be increasingly drier and hence no point in building any more dams - not enough rain to fill them. That was 20 years ago - the last 18 years have seen a ton more rain than in the previous 2 decades. Just ask the people in Queensland. Where I live, the place was supposed to be deserted by now because of lack of rain. Nope, none of that "expertly" predicted stuff happened. If these "sages" would have checked the historical records, they would have seen that this is all cyclical and us humans have a far smaller impact than claimed.
Sane thoughts. I saw a painting of the Rock of Gibralter back in like 1620?... and another photo of it today, more or less, but recently. SAME LEVEL of the ocean...
And how many of us can go and count the polar bears? It seems, actually that they're doing okay.
The fact that there are cycles doesn't mean humans have little impact. The trouble is we take sides in this debate according to our biases and not according to evidence which is far more difficult to parse than the data that Igor puts out. It's a big ol chaos out there and we're learning more about it all the time. They are getting pretty good at predicting the weather a week or two out so there's that. But i think we ought to be cautious rather than blusterous. Like in Ukraine. Maybe not go taunting a nuclear power. Know what i mean?
What makes you different? You are obviously on an Internet connected computer. What powers it? What do you eat? Where do you live, in a building? What resources do you delete at your job?
I live in a cabin surrounded by fir forests.. plenty to burn.. i grow a good percentage of my own food.. i'm on a micro hydro system.. i don't have a job per se... i do drive a car... not that many can live like me tho... and i do consider many who have jobs in the city shuffling paper around are kinda like useless eaters... they tend to just make life harder for people with their excess bureaucracy... but on the bright side they're having less children now
It's this sort of attitude that has me perplexed. On one hand you and plenty of others with similar views will join forces with people (whom you might not normally) over covid, but you'll resort to the "can't see it, can't hear it" type of thinking with regards to the climate and the planet and energy sources.
Is the crux of it that most people are deathly afraid of returning to cave-man status (which honestly is about where we all belong as a species in my books! The silicon chip is WAAAAY too advanced for us) - without their computers and their modern day lifestyles?
boriquagato/el gat malo/Bad Cattitude have subscribers galore with your type of thinking. They pooh-pooh anyone who thinks differently when it comes to climate/energy - yet if we close off that debate, we are no different to those who are pro-covid vs those who are anti-covid. People are just not very good at keeping open minds it would seem!
Maybe I'll just go back to writing my books and not bother with these substacks. I write my comments not for me, but for others to consider, but I think I've mostly come to the end of the line on it. People are people and they've always been people and they like to fight and cause problems and sometimes solve them and often make them worse. They have their good points but they have more bad than good IMO. Perhaps the religious are right - we ARE sinners. So do we keep living in sin and not truly learn, or do we realise we are also capable of rising above it all? The problem is that so few ARE capable of rising above it all, Miko. How do you save a species when most of them don't even know they need saving?! I think the answer is: you don't. We're living in very perplexing times...
The modern lifestyle in the West as it is right now is not something that I would regard as a model to copy. I would argue that the current model is something to avoid as it is designed to destroy the family unit and all aspects of morality. It is clearly devoid of purpose and self destructing. The US large cities are a showcase of how bad things get when people without purpose and morals are in charge. They care only about power and will do anything to keep that power. You get more dead in Chicago every weekend than you get on the border of Armenia & Azerbaijan which is still in a low level state of war.
I think that tech is now way overused and if the society is to improve, mind destroying garbage like Tik Tok and Faceborg/Metaborg needs to be gone, permanently. It only encourages a selfish, drone like mentality that got us in the Covid mess almost overnight. Instead of spending time with family, way too many people spend time on pointless garbage in front of a screen. No wonder so many people are depressed. They are literally at sea without a working rudder.
On energy and climate, it is a case that we just disagree. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. In the case of nuclear energy I have had a look at the facts and I see things very differently. Just for disclosure, I was roughly 900 kms away from Chernobyl when that mess happened. I also have nuclear physicist friends who have had very interesting views on the topic (definitely no consensus there). Hence, I think I understand the risks about nuclear power well enough. The reaction of most people is somewhat understandable as most of the information they get is from the media which is not in any shape or form a neutral arbiter.
The climate change business is definitely a massive scam and not all changes lead to the end of world. I could go on for pages on the failed "predictions" of how everything is getting worse and we have only 10-20 years to save ourselves. Not true. I still have the cut outs of the articles from the late 1990's and early 2000's saying that the UK will never see snow after the 2008. I kept copies because I recognized then that this was nonsense and I wanted to keep the evidence. Every single generation there has been a group that would agitate about some world calamity and like at all times in history, the world kept moving on especially once the doomsday predictions failed to materialize. The difference is that this is now being actively weaponized against everyone by well resourced psychos that want a1984 kind of world that they get to run. I do not want a world in which I am not allowed to travel because of carbon emissions. I do not want a world in which I have to eat bugs because apparently it saves the planet (which it does not). Yet that is the direction we are heading if we go along with the climate change scam. Covid was an eye opener of what happens idiots and psychos get a free pass to do whatever they please.
Final point - I like the Substack format especially in the format that Igor runs. Everyone gets a say and that is why it is worth reading. It provides alternate points of view and often one learns new facts. I read it and post on it because it allows almost 100% uncensored discussion - I have no expectations of agreement from the readers of my posts and I will say it one more - you are entitled to your own opinion and have every right to support your view with whatever facts/info you deem useful. Giving up on the platform because there is disagreement on some topic is unfortunate but again, everyone makes their own decisions.
Newsweek article, April 28, 1975: "Cooling World." I have a copy of it on my computer, it was called "climatic" change then. We were supposedly heading into a mini ice age of sorts. All kinds of dire predictions just like we are hearing now. Hilarious to read, a 47 year old blast from the past, and perhaps the birth of the climate change scam industry.
Thanks for your thoughts. Seems you have acquired some knowledge in your years!
Perhaps the climate change 'business' is indeed a massive scam, and I'm certainly not about to boot over people's businesses or farmland that are working right now just because they're suddenly considered as causing 'too much' pollution in some bureaucrat's calculations.
However, trying to look after the Earth because it is a more natural way to live and be is not a scam. I don't want to eat bugs or live in high-rises or not be able to travel any more than you! But it just seems that any time anyone mentions something about being nice to the Earth, they are labelled as 'climate change crazies' and laughed at, just as if they were willingly wearing masks and taking jabs.
I'm all for making the world a cleaner place and living sustainably, but over much TIME. After all, we're not the only ones who live here. Governments should be supporting measures like renewable energy research and better farming practices etc, not just effectively saying 'we have to close down your farms unless you all move to organic farming right now'. That one didn't work out too well, did it?! It might've been a good idea in the long-term, but it had a stupid implementation.
And yes, I like Igor's substack. He's a nice guy, has a great sense of humour, appeals to many by how and what he writes - and everyone mostly gets a reasonable say. But writing comments to try to say what's in/on your mind is not always the easiest. A lot gets lost in translation, shall we say.
Honestly Robyn, read “fossil future”, you don’t even have to get very far into it and you will understand what we “climate deniers “ are talking about. Alex Epstein is a philosopher and even concedes that humans may be driving CO2 levels up but he exposes the corruption in our climate and energy sector knowledge systems so beautifully. I used to believe that vaccines are safe, I used to give my kids all of them but now my eyes are open and I was very, very wrong before. Similarly I ask that you read the above mentioned book and then feed back to us. I don’t want you to give up on Substack
I went and looked up that book today. But I am not about to read it. Instead, from the many book reviews and comments that I read, it seems to me that Alex is 'negging' people. He comes up with his own little definitions like 'anti-impact' & 'climate mastery' - and then proceeds to tell people that they're basically immoral for not putting THEMSELVES first.
The whole thing is ultimately based on humans being self-centred - and making up arguments to suit themselves so that they can keep doing what they want to do.
I know I am only here because the Earth supports me, not because I 'impact' the Earth. It's a symbiotic relationship and I hope it will remain that way.
But humans are humans, and most are egocentric beyond belief. I think it's highly improbable to save such people. I've been wrong before, and no doubt I'll be wrong again. After all, I am only human! :-D
No vaccines have crossed my threshold since 15+ years ago because I realised just how they bad they were for me. My kids are vaccine-free and eat well and, on our property, we try to live in relative harmony with Nature.
So like Tarun, I think my hubby & I will just enjoy and maintain our country property, grow our food and help our kids to grow as well. What will happen to the world will happen.
I haven't read the book but it does seem all the rage now not only on the right which is not surprising, but on the socialist left too.. Trouble with both crowds seems to be a loe of materialism in a human centric world. Socialism traditionally for sure. Nature is here for our pleasure only. No intrinsic value of its own. It's also a traditional Christian notion, the idea of a dead material world that God has given us to lord over. So with those sorts of biases, any book that offers unlimited opportunity for further exploitation with no repercussions would be welcome. I think better to go back to the stone age and start over..
So you're saying trust the science.. and you understand the science do you? or are you just getting your trusted info from the authorities you trust? like big coal and nuclear?? i thought so.
LOL Excuse me? What? Oh, just fill in whatever I've said that you don't understand with whatever comes into your mind! What are you, thirteen?
I trust ACTUAL science when it's making sense and logical TO THE POINT that it is understandable and seems to function in the world. Science isn't religion. Science is about questioning, always. But when things seem to be working, you use them and they continue to be working, then you use them. You are clearly having trouble understand the difference between science and people TELLING you what to think.
And I don't think I've said ANYTHING about "big coal and nuclear." Anywhere.
People with high ego and anger levels tend not to be good at weighing the actual evidence. There's a lot of them on here. Sure in the pandemic anyone with a bullshit meter that was half working could see through the facade. It's a little trickier when it comes to the state of the natural world. We don't want our rights taken from us and one of those rights is to do with the world whatever the hell we want when we want. It's the American way for God's sake. I'm not really sure God wants any part of it however. Yeah we don't want our freedoms impinged upon and that includes freedom to fuck things up real good. So keep on ignoring the warning signs and party like it's 1899.
Have you woke up to the damage you do clodhopping around the world destroying everything in sight? Have you gone extinct or would you rather take us all down with you?
Oh. They don’t have to be wealthy (us standard wealthy). Insurance pays for it and the surgery. How do I know? My grandkid is going thru it. It’s heartbreaking snd I have no input.
Spend your kids inheritance. Or at least pretend to. Tell them your grandkid won’t need it as they won’t be having children. Inheritances should be for paying for children only.
I appreciate that. The puberty blockers have significant side effects. Joint pain has limited her activity level so she is putting on weight. I’m sure this child was damaged by the HPV jab because a normal 10 yr old girl then became riddled with OCD ADHD and on the spectrum (before the trans thing) Why her parents allowed this to happen is beyond me. The psychologists go along with this of course and insurance paid for the mutilation. And meds. I have no idea how they think this child can go away to college in 2 years. I despair. My only grandchild. Their only child.
I’m so sorry, Janet. May God give you a lot of wisdom and grace. And I pray he somehow brings your grandkid out of this and redeems what the locusts are eating.
I am totally serious. The ruling elites basically look at people like animals on a factory farm. I have no doubt that they would cull the herd if they thought it useful to themselves.
I agree. If you are worried about finite resources and how you control them on a finite planet. And you thought logically about the problem. You would likely conclude it may be most effective to minimize the number of those using and depleting those resources.
And then if you wanted to analyse where the greatest causative factor came from that used those resources the most, in order to eliminate or otherwise minimize this consumption process. You would likely find the developed world uses disproportionately more than the less developed nations per household or per person.
And so. If you wanted to make the greatest possible impact in the most effective way, in order to best and most easily manage those finite resources... Where would you start?
I would start with the global elites! They have homes that dwarf ours. They own more cars than I’v had my entire life. They use more resources than probably 10 regular folks. So, my logical answer to this would be.....”YOU FIRST”.
Indeed. The poster child for this is Al Gore. His house is, if I recall, about 10k sq. ft. and uses the energy of 3 or more regular homes COMBINED. Of course he does massive travel, etc. When he moves into a tiny house and gets around all the time on a bike, I'll begin to take these stooges a bit more seriously. Seriously.
I agree and consider that a population decrease until a sustainable level would be highly beneficial for us and for the planet.
For example, in the area where I live, we have 400 persons/km2, but the land, forests, water can only sustain 40 persons/km2 by my calculations. If the same appplies to the planet, that would mean 800 millions instead of 8 billions people.
+HOWEVER+ I consider that reducing population is a personal choice. Hence, any population decrease can only be achieved in the long-term, through education and possibly economic incentives.
Why, for example, should there be tax incentives for people wishing to have children IF this is not in-line with a long-term objective of reducing the population? Or why should we spend so much money in maintaining artificially alive the elderly? I think these are valid and reasonable questions.
Consequently, I strongly oppose any attempt to depopulate by using weapons, wars, covid vaccines, etc.
It is not only about the resources needed or available to feed 7 or 10 billion people for that matter, but how we exploit eco-systems on the one hand and what it means in terms of consequences for our freedoms and security on the other.
Clearly, the more we are, the more authoritarian and totalitarian the society organize itself (look at the history of societies which makes that perfectly clear). This, on its own, is a consequence of over-population I do not consider acceptable.
In addition, feeding more and more people requires high specialization of plants and animal species, use of fertilizers etc. up to a point where significant risk is built in because of the lack of diversity (i.e., following droughts, floods, warm or cold periods, sicknesses ...).
I prefer not to live on a planet ready to collapse at every turn because it is "highly optimized", with 8 billion people, polluted water, air, soils, no trees, few animal species etc. and, foremost, under a global dictatorial regime.
The solution to that is to gradually reduce population through education and incentivization, as well as keeping in check our ecological footprint, making the best use of the finite resources we have at our disposal.
I consider these objectives to be pro-human, i.e., allowing humans to live in harmony with nature and minimizing wars etc. I understand the "Darwinian" view though, which is to say that humans are made to evolve through innovation and competition, that after we reach 12 billion and collapse, only the fittest will survive etc. etc... I just don't think that pathway is particularly smart if you look at what happens when animal population collapse.
I really believe we have to consider this. We see the blatant lack of concern for life and limb from the ruling class. Just the banksters alone would pull the economic rug out from under us in a NY minute--helped along by our government. Hmmm. Back in 2008......
I understand. You are probably not wrong. But there are two ways to achieve the desired outcome.
1) Better systems to manage the finite resources
2) or less consumption of those resources.
But if you want the quickest and most effective way. You do both simultaneously. It's not anti human. It's cold psychopathic logic. Like a computer or AI system decided on it.
I don't agree with it. It's just the simplist and most effective solution to the problem.
I agree. The concept of minimizing the use of resources isn't a bad one in the long term. It is the method they deployed to achieve it that is terrible.
Education and incentives is a much better method. All it takes is a few generations to have less children and to use less resources. A change from globalized materialism to local economies, self sustainability and improved automation.
We would be halfway there in half a century. But no. Let's instead give everyone cancer and disease. Let's play God.
There is not overpopulation. This is a falsehood. The Malthusian maniacs have been claiming this for 200+ years and they have been wrong every time.
The number of people <=15 is under 2B. This number hasn't changed substantially in several decades. Many Western countries are so far into depopulation (Italy for example) that there is no feasible way for locally generated economic recovery/growth due to lack of people and low birth rates.
The Malthusian acolytes are going to get their wish, an it's going to be very ugly.
Western Europe, the cradle of Western Civilisation is self-terminating.
The global food chains are crumbling and this means large parts of Africa and some other places will starve ... no fertilizer and tractors means no food.
It is sold as an end that supposedly justifies the means, but it is a lie.
It is a lie that has been used to justify social darwinism for centuries.
Malthusianism is a lie that is sold through propaganda. It is put forward as a means to justify the real factual but deliberately obscured end, the control of all the earth and its resources by a very few.
On the contrary, the wealthier the society the better the environment is protected.
Define 'unsustainable'?
Define your 'sustainable' cut-off?
Define 'resources'?
Define wealthiest?
Define 'we' and 'for years'?
What implicit hand waving nonsense.
Sources: Overall: Johan Morberg. Progress: Ten Reasons to Look Forward to the Future 1) World Bank 2) World Bark 3) UN IGME. 4) UN. 5) ILGA. 6) World Bank. 7) Our World in Data. 8) Our World in Data. 9) McAfee. More From Less 2019. 10) Freedom House. Data collecting takes time. so some numbers refer to 2007-2017. 2008-2018 or 2009-19.
I strongly disagree that there is a population problem; that is propaganda and has no actual evidence to support it. What IS clear is that due to direct fuckery, there are plenty of people who have no, or very limited, access to food and/or clean water. There is a pollution issue, and the MILITARY is the biggest polluter by far, far, far. What we have here is a culmination of decades, centuries, of oligarchal lies and fuckery; why people are now mistrusting almost everyone and everything, is because of this same Evil we are seeing now so concentrated and amped up that it's become a global genocide... And the financial fuckery is online to begin soon. Starvation brought about deliberately... We're in for a very rough ride.
I would further say, and agree with you, that the ruling elitist pathological oligarchy in general are the "useless eaters" they complain about; they are the problem, they are the reason we're all in this mess. It is THEIR lies that are being issued as "reality" when we hear that the Earth is in "crisis," because it's not the Earth, its the PEOPLE on the Earth.
There are two sides here.. the elites that want to enslave the rest of us and the rest of us who just want to go on with our lives like it's 1999. Of course i would prefer the latter even though they are in great illusion and the world will fall apart anyways....
I think you're freaking out. I can understand why. But jumping all over me because I disagree with you is not going to help. I'm saying the BAD guys are putting out this bullshit about climate "crisis" and too many people and the World is Ending... I'm saying it's bullshit, and I'm backed by EVIDENCE. Go and find it, it's there, that evidence. And calm down, because the REAL trouble are the people SAYING THIS bs. The world is NOT falling apart, but there is trouble... not with the WORLD, with the insane oligarchs that want to control everything.
I do agree that the 'climate crisis' is overhyped by shitlib media for their own purposes. They only report news that fits their agenda. But there are multiple stressors on the environment. I live in the country and grow my food. Ten years ago my green houses were full of insects making a big racket bouncing off the plastic. Now it's silent spring. That's my personal experience. There are many other things going wrong. Shit's going to hit the fan. It is hitting the fan.
the interior of British Columbia... It does seem global in scope... loss of habitat is the prominent reason according to a google search... but no one is talking about it much.. stangely... too many existential threats crowding in on us now i guess
Igor, you are one of the best independent journalists I know! I wish you were a New York Times or Washington Post Reporter! Your articles have the potential to destroy the whole official narrative within minutes. Can you buy one of these mainstream media news outlets?? Imagine you buy the New York Times! Then you can really spread this information to a huge audience! Maybe we should ask Steve Kirsch if he has some million dollars for this purpose,....
Could you at least upload the results of your statistical analyses to a preprint server?? Although there would still be people who say "this is not peer reviewed", a preprint can have a stronger influence (on the medical community) than a substack article...
When they say, as they do, ALL the news that's FIT TO PRINT, what they actually mean is,
The new york judith miller slimeees will give an official story that is sanitized of any actual news, and print that as it sees fit.
Except, they seem to be a bit worried about nUkraine, as Russian missiles can reach the buildings they operate out of , and they knows it now. But will they start telling the truth? hold your breath for 3 seconds, click your heels and say there's no place like home...
Once all other causes are ruled out, microwave radiation from new cell towers, glyphosphate levels in food, suicides from job losses, then the mRNA injections look like the most likely cause. That being said, the temporal relationship seems to be most closely correlated with the mRNA.
Yeah Dr Nagase was one of the first doctors I saw speaking out on video releasrd online. I had some serious doubts, but watching him speak in particular helped me realize I wasn't crazy.
Absolutely. But in response to your own substack post. It is most likely planned depopulation undertaken in order to preserve resources.
We have a failing fiat based economy and money itself can't feed anyone. It won't keep you warm. Food feeds people. Jackets, housing and electricity keep you warm. Money is just the middleman. They know this. They always have.
But the resources they matter. And us useless eaters use up many of them.
But if you nuked the earth you might do serious or permanent damage to it. Chemical weapons create prolonged toxic environments. And a bio-weapon or plague would likely place you and your own family at risk...
But if you scared people enough with a bunch of targeted biological releases. Creating panic. Knowing the agent will quickly devolve or mutate into something less toxic because it was programmed this way. You could easily create a scare and then lead the population into poisoning themselves with the cure. And you could do all this whilst sitting on a remote island somewhere sipping cocktails under the palm trees. Further minimizing the risk to yourself.
Did anyone see that rather odd Deagal 2025 world population forecast? The document seems to have disappeared from the internet but it showed some alarming reductions in populations. At the time i couldn't figure it out but now I see. I wonder how they knew?
They obviously knew way back in 2014 that some major event was coming that would wipe out huge numbers of people. I can’t see SARS Cov 2 get the numbers down as low as what they predicted by 2025. Who knows what else is on the horizon?
There’s some seriously big numbers in some of those reductions: US down to 99 million. Uk down to 14.5 million. To do that by 2025 can mean only one thing. Hint - it rhymes with buclear for.
Yeah I read the bad cat too. He’s very good. Problem with a highly virulent virus is they don’t last very long. A global population of weakened immune systems however ... now would be the time. If you leave it too long people’s immune systems may start repairing themselves.
They are trying to "move on" as they are complicit - all knew that the jabs were harmful and instead of stopping the horror, they pushed all the way via mandates and home detention. These people need to be charged with mass murder and put away for the rest of their lives. No one will ever know the true extent of the number of injured and dead.
If you read Ethical Sceptic in Twitter, they're busily reclassifying deaths, trying to hide them amongst a diminishing covid impact, but their fig leaf gets smaller by the day. Did you hear yesterday about the 20 year old major league baseball player that died of lymphoma, diagnosed last summer? I wonder what else happened last summer?
Maybe they are trying to hide it behind a curtain...although it's sheer/ transparent. Image of Toto and the Wizard of Oz keep coming to my mind lately....oh past 3 years or so actually. Those monkeys you mentioned too.
I’ve also wondered whether individually none of them want to be the one that speaks up. Due to groupthink
With adverse events to medical devices in NZ the specialists and drs all play dumb. None of them want to be the one to blame a medical device for harm as they get investigated by the medical council if they do. Could be a bit of that kind of thinking going on too
The medicos with few exceptions have proven beyond any doubt to be corrupt ("Do no harm to the bank account"), incapable of critical thinking or both. In short, the exact type of people you do NOT want in medicine. The accountability needs to be applied to both the pollies and the medicos as they are both guilty of the worst crime in the last 80 years or so.
I think this makes a strong case about the birth rates being connected to the vaxxiines. However, it is really interesting that highly vaxxinated Sweden has considerably lower excess mortality than most other (if not all?) European countries. What is going on there? They were the only country without lockups (I'm still not calling them lockdowns because these were lockups), and they also never mandated face diapers. The Occam's razor explanation would be that while the vaxxiines are undoubtedly bad, the most excess deaths were either caused by the lockups and/or somehow connected to the face diapers, maybe they hamper the immune system more that previously thought?
Could it be linked to more early exposure to the virus in Swedish population BEFORE vaccine rollout, resulting in a different (protective/neutralising) response to vaccine spike protein in the Swedes compared to other countries. Something along those lines.
Two things come to mind. The first is that, face masks are a negative - Italian studies showed that after less than 4 hours, masks accumulate a lot of nasty bacterial stuff that you would not want to breath in. Anyone breathing in that stuff is more likely to pick some bug which impacts your immunity until you clear it.
Second, the type of vax and who received it is important as well. The vax is bad for all ages but the younger people get hit significantly and these are the people that are least likely to drop dead. If the Swedes jabbed their elders more, then it may explain the lower excess mortality as they would be likely to pass on anyway. Was Murderna used in larger numbers in Sweden? I have no specific info but I do know that Sweden was one the Scandinavian countries that steered away from it because of the side effects. If it was only Pfizer, that again may explain the lower numbers - Murderna is really awful, one average three times the amount of MRNA that they squeeze into Pfizer.
Comparing with Norway Sweden had much more excess mortality in 2020. In 2021 they both had excess in the second half i.e. following infection with 'the vaccine'. In 2022 Sweden seems to have less excess but this could just be because more died earlier on. I don't really see that the data shows much difference with Sweden since you would expect a trough after a wave up and there isn't really one indicating there is still excess. It is similar like Hungary where there is very pronounced excess earlier on with 2022 more normal but with such pronounced excess there should be a substantial trough that is not there. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count?time=earliest..latest&country=~NOR
Good point regarding face masks. I noticed that manual workers were much less likely to wear masks than the middle classes.
Igor hasn’t taken into account that the early vaccination in the UK were largely Astra Zeneca so not mRNA. Boosters were nearly all mRNA. Friends of mine had to get a special dispensation to continue with AZ as boosters.
Maybe by living more or less "normally ", more people were infected and overcame the virus (not a stretch with a mortality rate far south of 1%). Maybe being exposed outcompetes the injection if it's given after virus exposure? Just thinking out loud here.
Perception vs Reality: Last week’s conspiracy theories are this week’s spoiler alerts. Devastating but true. You knew it all along, Igor. I thank God daily for you and the other substack heroes.
I'm in my mid-50s' so mostly my friends are way past child bearing but they are generally a university educated 'liberal' type who happily ran to grab their "life saving vaccine" (I use the term loosely).
So that checks out with your research regarding the class system here in the UK and the middle-classes uptake of the C0vid vaxx very high indeed. They genuinely believe in "the Science".
Members of our ethnic communications were far less trusting, particularly with Bill Gates known exploits in Nigeria (iirc) and the Indian subcontinent being obviously felt more by immigrants here to the UK with family ties to the places Gates has allegedly experimented on.
Right. Ethnic people and lower status people are very familiar with SCAMS, that a member of the laptop class would not encounter. So the poor people could easily discern covid vax as a scam -- whereas education-programmed, science-believing people could not see due to not having the mental tools to deal with the largest psyop in history.
Speaking to a young man that new something was wrong but needed guidance. A good dose of Geert and he is sorting things pronto.
I said to him that you are at an age where pregnancies' may become an issue, the answer. Four young woman in his circles two of whom are identical twins. Great they say we can get pregnant together. One is tripled and one has none. The soon to be mother with none is well into her third trimester and the tripled is starting IVF.
The other two young ladies have at least two and just cant get pregnant, all mid twenties.
A cynic might almost suspect that there is an attempt to eliminate the indigenous middle class population to be replaced by (illegal) immigraants to do the required manual labour.! Outrageous I know but in these days of the WEF and the Globalist Reset, this might be why "you will have nothing and you will be happy"? Perhaps what they meant is that you should feel lucky just to be alive!!
It wasn't like the authorities didn't try to get BAME people living in economically deprived areas to get jabbed though. They seemed to be genuinely irritated at the time that black people especially were not queueing up to get sterilised, injured and dead. Combine this with the fact that they keep trying to push these 'vaccines' onto the Third World, the fact that Gates and GAVI have previous form in promoting sterilising drugs in the Third World and you'll see that the bigger picture is one of global depopulation, not just wiping out the predominantly white middle classes here in Blighty.
https://search.brave.com/search?q=UK+vaccination+rate+among+BAME&source=desktop
I think they're just stupid enough to truly believe this vaccine is their savior. Maybe on a subconscious level it's their Freudian death drive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_drive
It was an expensive hour with you but worth every penny.
The illegal alien invasion of western countries is for the short-term purpose of cultural destabilization and to break the social welfare systems financially and functionally, then to out-breed the indigenous populations of Europe, and the population of the U.S. as a "replacement migration" scheme. The invaders will be much easier to control because of their generally very poor educational status and lower I.Q.s (being mostly from lower classes in impoverished areas where less-than-optimal-nutrition is the norm). Controllable Masses are easily preyed upon and then exterminated when the Ruling Overlords are ready to finish THEM off, too (after having served their purpose of assisting in the extermination of the smarter people they supplanted).
My impression is that it was the best educated that were most easily fooled and manipulated during the past 21/2 years, and my observation matches today's post assessment by Igor; These immigration waves of people entering the 1st world will behave in unpredictable ways and will act on instinct and the globalists will likely not be able to control them.
I absolutely agree. It matches my personal experiences and observations:
The higher the level of education, the easier people bought into the narrative.
Resistance is U shaped. People with PhDs have higher levels of vaccine "hesistancy", although it's not a big difference. My guess is that that hesitancy is hard earned - the children of people with STEM degrees have been HARD hit with autism, and a LOT of the people in the STEM community know the vaccines have been a big cause of it.
I agree.
Actually, I was not referring to "vaccine hesitancy" in particular, but rather to a - healthy - distrust of what was going on in general from 2020 onwards. The first people I could talk to about my conviction that the measures taken weren't about health were not highly educated friends, but rather, what you would call, "ordinary" people. That was back in March 2020.
Add, they will be given guns to shoot us. It gets rid of the issue of young men killing their own families.
I don't know if low IQ people are necessarily any easier to manipulate. Those with middling-high IQs, the "midwits", seem easiest to manipulate. Maybe it's even a plan to drive all these migrants back to the third world, or segregate them out of places where they don't want them to gangrape or run cars over people or set bombs. Passive-aggressive racism, because they're too polite to openly discuss the issue.
Divide and conquer.
true, Immigrants don't know the freedoms that the US citizens are granted in the constitution and the legal system. they will vote for anyone and just do what they are told, especially if they are getting a check.
That’s how Trudeau got in, in Canada.
IMO, there are Tribes of Psychos seeking power.
The WEF crowd. They talk too much, I wont comment, except the two most important. One, they said Science is no longer about Truth, it is about power. Second, they said the elite are creating an Ark for themselves and the rest of humanity will drown.
The Xi Mafia, they want to kill everyone but are amazingly patient. They actually make the vaccine for Pfizer and the nano lipid particle. If someone wants proof, let me know.
The Fake Biden Administration, he is out to lunch, but the UN and deep state want 100 million starving immigrants by 2024 to create enough chaos to "reimagine" a country that includes all of North and South America. Lara Logan has a UN leaker that says this is what they are doing. The looney no fertilizers is part of it.
Actually, I understand the vaccine, or ONE of them, at least, was invented by DARPA, which makes perfect sense. As to who manufactured it, does it matter? It comes from the DOD. That should open everyone's eyes, if they wrap their brains around it...
Makes sense to me. I've been hearing about some future thing called "The Event." WTF do you imagine that might be? JFC. And I think maybe the "ark" is actually underground... Apparently there's a whole network of "living spaces" somewhere, or in various places... I have to say I think these NWO Useless Eaters BELONG underground, but not still breathing...
Now there's a comment you can swallow hook, line, and sinker, good work Bull Dog!
This guy was told that the fighting age males flooding our shores are in fact NATO troops! Truly shocking if true. Worth a watch: https://gettr.com/streaming/p1s8oym3573?
That's a one hour 15 minute interview with an English funeral director. I've seen an interview with him before. He's definitely interesting, but could you point me to the minute mark where the NATO troops are discussed?
From 46 minutes
Thanks. I watched the video from that point to the end. I guess it should be obvious from your name, but you (and he) are referring to England. There are comments about a lot of the illegals flooding the US southern border being "military age men", with the implied possibility that they could be military. I haven't heard anything beyond that though.
When people say "military age men" I think the point they are making is where are the women and children?
Also some people worry that itmay upset the population balance?
Possibly, but if I wasn't thinking specifically of the military angle, I'd say "younger men" or something similar, and I think most other people would too.
You're exactly right. The middle class is overwhelmingly white, hence all this anti-white rhetoric. They are being demonized in preparation for something worse than even dispossession, I fear.
I would call it an "autogenocide", a term coined to describe the genocide in Cambodia. Except I don't think they were committing suicide the way White people are with these vaccines, they were just killing other Cambodians that didn't fit into their ideal for a society. Maybe they're just in a hurry for all these Boomers to die off so they can buy out all their houses.
You mean, like, GENOCIDE? I'd say that's likely!
Leading indicators point in that direction. Prepare yourself accordingly.
Right! I'm preparing to be murdered as we speak... (gallows humor)
😂
not much prep needed.
guess you can work on your facial expression.
"Freedom!" like William Wallace.
or just:
😯
Sounds reasonable to me! I think people are still, for the most part, and I'm including us "Truthers," unable to really comprehend the incredible Evil we are facing.
Yea, this truther can face the incredible evil, Halloween is only 16 days away.
Those of European ancestry a target of the cult.
It's a bonus if you're Christian and have an IQ on the side of the Bell Curve.
And heterosexual... we have seen the lists.
Quite enjoyed the pagans participating in celebration of Catholic hero earlier this week. Bet their hatred of their ancestors would have stopped short of giving up yhe holiday off
I don't think they anticipated the skills of the lower economic classes. These are not people who got things on a plate, these are people who have no 'safe spaces', people who had to understand behaviour, BS and courage. Think how smart the average market trader is, they don't get fooled easily. Fear has to be more than a TV 'expert' for these guys.
In the UK they have been trying to kill those in the lower economic classes for years.
You get used to "making do" and what would once have been a struggle becomes secdond nature.
Some of these posh twats panic if their wine is a degree too warm.
With no population, there is no requirement for manual labour. Rewilding is on the cards.
I need a good meal cooked. So I need an Italian old man, a Mexican old woman, and a Chinese...
I NEED GOOD FOOD.
Btw, I grant citizenship to any of these groups, as long as they give me 1,2 meals a week
America has 11 million open jobs, and as of September 22, 2022 there is only about 6.2 million unemployed? Huh, they only need 5 million additional manual labors, and this year there was 2 million illegal aliens that crossed our border so I don't think that's a good reason to depopulate America, do you?
They need servants, tho. (smdh)
They really don’t need us for labour. Artificial intelligence and machine learning is accelerating. The robots out of Boston Dynamics can dance and do parkour. And this is only what they ALLOW us to see. Their technology must be decades more advanced than we thought it was.
Well, you may be right. But I suspect that, given what we've seen of these people so far, they know how to kill us, scare the shit out of us, and lie to us... They don't seem to really have the kind of knowledge or creativity they THINK they have. They've fucked up a lot of what they're trying to do, and there's really VERY little chance, considering the profound complications of what they're trying to do, that they will be successful in ANY of it, other than killing off a whole lot of people. having robots that can dance and do parkour doesn't mean much to me. Robots can't think, they can't feel things emotionally, they can't make decisions, they can only calculate and be assistance in like, surgery, or manufacturing, say. I just don't see the Star Trek thing happening. Of course, they want us to believe they are waaaaay ahead of the game. I don't think so. So far, most of their claims are just that-- claims. That's my take. And even if they can kill off a lot of us, there will still be waaaaay more of us than of them. They'll never succeed. Tyranny never works. They will cause incredible harm and trouble and chaos, but they won't succeed.
All high tech needs mass production to be cost effective. They need millions of customers to buy the products to warrant building the computers they need for ai.
True dat.
Think of what usually happens in tyranical takeovers. The Bolsheviks will serve as a point.
They get rid of the influencers first. The bourgois. The higher educated and wealthier people are targeted. Whether you do that via brute force or by flattery...is inconsequential. Flattery in fact is a preferred method...as it is voluntary...and does not so quickly arouse suspicion of crime.
Tell the masses...do the smart thing...get jabbed. Do the right thing. Follow the science. Concensus says. Most scientists agree. Doctors highly reccomend.
All of these affect the psyche and play into social compliance of those most needing to feel they belong among the upper class intellectually and monetarily. Tribalism in a sense.
Their egos make them low hanging fruit. I just thought of the music world...how quickly all the former rebels of the status quo are now the most vocal pushers of the same.
And "history repeats itself", or at least rhymes.
stil haven't defined the "you" part
Definition of You:
1: the one or ones being addressed —used as the pronoun of the second person singular or plural in any grammatical relation except that of a possessive you may sit in that chair
—used formerly only as a plural pronoun of the second person in the dative or accusative case as direct or indirect object of a verb or as object of a preposition
— compare THEE, THOU, YE, YOUR, YOURS
2: ONE sense 2a. after a while, it grows on you
nah
Indigenous would not be word I'd use to describe the middle class, unless your a member of the original inhabitants of the particular place you live, and worldwide there is not much middle class that fit in the category.
Do you really believe governments are trying to replace the population? Do you think that any government could really accomplish that feat when most populations out number there governments?
If that was the case there would have never been a United States of America. Medical depopulation purposely is not even rational or logical or achievable on a world scale.
The scheme is happening on a scale far above individual governments. This is a worldwide takeover and takedown of humanity.
"Pleased to meet you, can you guess my name?"
Do you even leave your house? Just asking?
...Do you think that any government could really accomplish that feat when most populations out number their governments?...
Not too hot on history are you. It only takes a few to control the many - Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot.
Besides governments are being manipulated by the billionaire psychopaths - Soros, Gates, Schwab etc They determine what happens and have decided that they want what remains of the Earth's resources and if that means culling the Earth's population then that is what they will do. That is what they ARE doing.
I'm up to date on history now with your lesson. I disagree, but up to date.
Medical Tyranny has happened before.
Oh, yea when did they depopulate the world with medical tyranny, I'd love to hear this story? If that was true, how did you survive?
True, not the world.
Germany was under a health emergency during the entire Nazi regime. The Jews were round up in camps because it was thought they were disease vectors.
true, but in the end the people beat the government, there are simply too many people for governments to control all of us.
Through out the history of world, people have always prevailed over governments.
Eventually but Mao, Lenin, Hitler and Mussulini killed millions.
Covid scam probably will beat all of them combined. I dont see how it wouldnt. But the food and energy deaths will overshadow the kills no doubt.
And the US has certainly had it ever since Rockefeller created Big Pharma.
If English are not indigenous in England, no one is.
Europeans have been genetically European for at least 27,000 years. The English have only about 25% Saxon dna. The rest is ancient British.
Sorry but even "white English" are not indigenous to England.
I say this as a person who is English.
If you took the time to comprehend my comment instead of engaging your index finger prematurely, you'd find I used the word most middle class? Or words to the effect. Thanks for your comment.
"English" is a mixture from other European subgroups colonizng the islands: Anglo Saxons, Nordic, Norman, and Germanic, (or so . . . history classes were a VERY long time ago!)
The true indigenous English (and British) were scattered tribes of 'Celts' who were not of the same race, but shared common cultures and customs and they settled in the British Isles from about 500 BC onwards. There's not much Celtic blood in England now; most English genetic heritage is from the the invasions of the Angles and the Saxons. Cultural heritage is far more important than genetic purity or bloodlines. What they are trying to do is erase British culture and history. That matters. If we lose our cultural identity, we lose our country and we lose ourselves and our national identity.
In fact there is plenty of Celtic blood - the Anglo Saxons, Vikings etc who entered the coastal areas in particular bred with the Celtic women. The dna is there, especially in the matrilineal lines, but the Celtic languages were wiped out in England, as we can see from the early English language and the village names. A few place names survived - rivers and mountains.
Ancestry.com say that in England as a whole, the proportion of Irish (Celtic) DNA is around 20%. In Scotland and NI, the proportion is twice as high, where Celtic DNA dominates over that of Anglo-Saxon and West European.
https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/international/press-releases/DNA-of-the-nation-revealedand-were-not-as-British-as-we-think
So the Celts were the original colonizers of Britain. Interesting.
I suppose one could say that the ONLY truly indigenous group is the descendants of the equitoral Africans where humanity originally evolved. Everybody else are later migrants and colonizers!
Neanderthals were the original inhabitants of the Eurasian continent. Modern humans from Africa invaded much later, but even so, Neanderthals and modern humans share a common ancestor on the African continent. Neanderthals lived long enough in Eurasia to evolve separately from Homo Sapiens and thus became a separate species of human, so the true indigenous Europeans really are Neanderthals and I think it's likely they made it to the British Isles during periods when there was no sea separating us from the continent. Certainly, Neanderthal DNA persists in modern humans from interbreeding during the wave of invasions of 'Out Of Africa' modern humans near the end of the last Ice Age.
My comment was very carefully worded to avoid Establsihemnt troll pushbak
That's good news, I despise those "Establsihemnt" (correct spelling - establishment) trolls; maybe you can take a spelling lesson before you engage your index finger on the "post" icon.
It's called a typo. We all make them, even Establishment trolls like you. Shame your pedantic comments add no substance to the debate which is perhaps why they don't attract many upvotes?
If you reached this comment and did not get a reply it was because were busy commenting to rational, logical, and responsible commenters, please leave a message and we will get back to you soon!
Just to "square the circle" as it were, your spelling is awful, it should be "we're" (as in the truncated form of "we are") not "were". I told you that even Establishment Trolls make typos, or perhaps in your case you wouldn't know the difference?
Perfect way to end such a heavenly "conversation" with someone who clearly overestimates his/her/its intellectual capabilities and has nothing to add of any substance, so resorting to pedantic comments on trivia and ad hominems. The typical mark of a Troll.
Not "replace" the population, DECIMATE it. Too many people to have to try and control... They've been trying to depopulate the world for decades, centuries, maybe, but certainly since the early 1900's, after figuring out that people survive much better with clean food and water, and sanitation generally... Hand washing was a HUGE jump in dealing with health problems. Eugenics has been around for quite a while.
That recent study comparing several thousand vaccinated children to unvaccinated children makes it pretty clear: the UNvaccinated "run circles around" the vaccinated, health-wise, in every metric!
Your assessment makes sense... I lost my job, too. Hanging on by my toenails.
I'm not exactly sure how it works but illegal immigrants usually have illegal employment. I know a bunch of them who have fake papers.
The employer that they work for and the type of work that they do I can't see them ever being pushed to vaccinate
Not if they all die.
So, is Covid vaccine a depopulation vaccine?
A military doctor I looked upto once told me this. "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."
But CNN says its a swan.
CNN says whatever goes wrong is Trump's fault and whatever goes right is Bidens doing. If they ever finally do admit what a disaster the vaccine is they'll blame it on Trump
Instead of voting, people should go and stand in front of the local coroners office for a while.
Traditionally American elections include many votes from dead people
Its a whole new demographic: Generation Dead
Including many Deadheads
And ask to see the strange white blockages coming out of people's blood vessels when they try to embalm them... !!!
(I know, that's morticians, but... Daaaaaaaaaamn.)
I have no clue what CNN is saying along with most everybody else because few people ever tune in
They should have suspected this in the first place. What's going on is literally a TDS BlueAnon's wet dream. Trump unleashing a deadly vaccine on the world and causing more genocide than Hitler... even using the military to control the media and brainwash people into taking it... I see Twitter accounts that predicted this that later threw it down the memory hole.
CNN has long been known as a mouthpiece of the CIA.
Maybe both are wrong- it is a vulture, a carrion species. The "crypto" currency mining the decaying microchipped corpse is a rumor that seems plausible based on recognition of greed, and the BlueTooth codes being picked up near fresh graves of jabbed people. I don't have any reference link for that. Saw it a while ago.
Bloody hell.
Chinese Nazi news
Black swan for that matter.
Or an airplane
Anyone here studying liver damage? Or have any links to specialists who work in that field?
Looking for stats, trends and or cases.
Cancers, cirrhosis or even strange outbreaks of leptospirosis.
Organ rejection, hepatitis or other infection.
Autoimmune onset, jaundice or whatever.
Interested in spike proteins effect on the liver. Please share.
My daughter took 2 jabs to attend college. An ultrasound showed signs of fatty liver. She is 20. She is not taking any boosters.
I’m so sorry for your daughter. Consider looking at a low carb high natural fat way of eating. The Obesity Code book by Dr Jason Fung (yes, applicable even for we who are not obese, don’t let the title put you off). Ivor Cummins out of Ireland - at TheFatEmporer.com or FatEmperor.com (and check my spelling of “Emperor” because I often get it wrong).
Veg oils (canola, soy, safflower, corn, sunflower, cottonseed) are all very bad for us and cause fatty liver. Get rid of them and replace w real butter, avocado oil (but check for reputable brands… many sub veg oil for part), coconut oil, tallow, ghee, etc.
Fatty liver due to insulin resistance is insanely common in younger folks nowadays, even pre-jab. Due to veg oils in our diets, highly processed foods, and probably environmental toxins. I wish your daughter well.
I agree with all that you just said.
In the same vein, I'm reading this book now and it's fantastic: "Carnivore Cure: The Ultimate Elimination Diet to Attain Optimal Health and Heal Your Body" by Judy Cho. Very impressive book and it explains everything you might want to know about all aspects of food.
The body can heal a LOT of things.
The usual Vit's D and C, Zinc and Quercetin, and I've read that taking the skins of a grapefruit and a couple or three lemons, simmer them in water for an hour, cool for an hour, then drink... very cleansing. I don't know if this works for everything we're looking at, but it sure can't hurt.
It would help against spike. I learned of histamine sensitivity though, and citrus was making that worse for me. I use mango peel with outer rind of pomegranate (inner I use in food), thyme, and a little dandelion in my current mix of pom plus tea.
I'm making note of this... thanks!
Same thing happened to my daughter-in-law. She is in the military. The most physically fit girl I know. Two shots. Will not get another. Can the liver get better from this? I've been curious to know.
https://t.me/BryanArdis/175
See this posting made on 10/13/22. Will blow you away! HYPERBARIC OXYGEN TREATMENT can apparently reverse “various “irreversible” conditions. It is shown to be effective with the vaccine injured.
Watch video & then spread far & wide. There are ways to defeat the bio-weapon. And supposedly this treatment has been known since the 1920’s (maybe earlier?).
Also.... try the herb milk thistle. It helps the liver as well.
I like to go with things that require the least amount of “experts”, even holistic, and least cost. I learned BodyTalk, Field Consciousness, the liver cleanse method, but especially breatharianism.
But something simple that takes very little learning and is cheap: food grade hydrogen peroxide, iodine, Epsom salts. All very cheap and powerful for amazing benefits when applied correctly.
With fg h2o2 bathing in it, and using it in combination with epsom salt cleanses (oral) and enemas.
Recovering the colon and then toning and strengthening it along with all of the core and back, is essential to cleansing the liver. Then, the kidneys. The skin is fairly easy. Soaks of h2o2 and Epsom salts with scrubs. Dead skin falls off and if you do a h2o2 oral cleanse which takes a weeks you will soon never “need” body odor control products ever again. Cleaning the body inside and out will allow the body to move toxic load fast and effectively so that it uses the healing methods of fever, inflammation and cancer much less and moves up to higher vibration and more effective healing mechanisms.
I agree with that approach. I would only say that you can cleanse the colon with coffee, if you can stand to "waste" it that way, ha ha; and also be careful with the hydrogen peroxide, because it can be quite harsh if used very often, hard on the skin and tissues of mouth, etc. Cheers.
Yes, I've heard of it, I read about it some years ago. Good idea, I'd say.
Consider looking at a low carb high natural fat way of eating. The Obesity Code book by Dr Jason Fung (yes, applicable even for we who are not obese, don’t let the title put you off). Ivor Cummins out of Ireland - at TheFatEmporer.com or FatEmperor.com (and check my spelling of “Emperor” because I often get it wrong).
Veg oils (canola, soy, safflower, corn, sunflower, cottonseed) are all very bad for us and cause fatty liver. Get rid of them and replace w real butter, avocado oil (but check for reputable brands… many sub veg oil for part), coconut oil, tallow, ghee, etc.
Very few people will never move in this direction since it is so incompatible with what people think of as normal and possible.
Breatharianism.
I came up with a logical, left brain lattice to scan intuition years ago. In 2019, March it produced that I should move from Maryland to Montana. Did that two months later.
Pandemic hit only months later. I was in a much better situation to withstand the agenda and fallout.
The next thing that came up was breatharianism. Before even getting a chance to research it my intuitive results for eating and drinking - which was based on Dr. Fuhrman’s Nutritarian approach which is the most sustainable, satisfying, interesting, enjoyable and effective way I’ve come across to this point - along with some Andreas Moritz principles. Anyhow, my morning water was anywhere from 3-5.5 16 oz glasses of water. But that morning after the intuition it came up as 4 oz. The next day the same. And no food came up. By the end of the week I was much thinner but also high energy, joint soreness disappeared in a lot of places and muscles were like steel and my strength up improving.
I drink fluids mostly but eat food here and there when I wish to enjoy it, usually offerings from others at the rare gatherings. But my link to Field has grown deep and wide.
It feels sooooo good to know that what the globalists are about to do in terms of food shortages, famine and pushing fake foods is not going to be a direct threat to me. It’s also great saving hundreds every month.
Your experience is interesting to say the least.
I’m somewhat surprised to hear you say that too many people see a LCHF way of eating as incompatible with normal.
Yeah, it took us about six months to feel sort of at ease and natural with meal planning this way. But the health benefits were enormous. Now, it seems weird when our kid’s youth group wants to serve pop tarts for breakfast. 🙄
There are growing numbers of people eating this way. It takes will you change, but it is definitely not impossible.
It would be good to go to a body talk practitioner after reading up on body talk and use it as the center of health and medical approach for integrated holistic medicine. It would probably recommend the liver cleanse method of Andreas Moritz.
Thank you.
Yes it can. The best liver restoration book is by Andreas Moritz and amazing gallbladder and liver cleanse or flush.
She is 26.
I'm putting her on my Love List... First name?
Pomegranate peel products can help liver injury. Cutting back on fructose is a good idea too. It can only be used by the liver and excess is stored there as fat. High fructose corn syrup is leading to an epidemic of fatty liver disease in teens and young adults. It can lead to a liver transplant within 15 years, or less is being seen. All the corn syrup sweetened beverages are a problem. Spike makes it worse. Vitamin A and carotenoids would be making it worse too if that is part of the 'new' problem - figure that something changed - life is no longer the same. That is a difficult transition to make with chronic illness but it helps. Sad that 20 year olds are having to face it though.
YES. Good info!
Have you seen these:
LiverTox: Clinical and Research Information on Drug-Induced Liver Injury [Internet].
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK570468/
SARS-CoV-2 can recruit a heme metabolite to evade antibody immunity
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abg7607
Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia as a Novel Complication of ...
- direct download
https://oamjms.eu/index.php/mjms/article/download/5484/5281/34170
Another friend has an autoimmune blood disease now. Autoimmune cold agglutinin. Was fairly rare.
Once upon a time, the FDA had up a website with the "possible" side effects of the mRNA vaxxine. Autoimmune disorders was one of them, along with all the other horrible diseases that went from "possible" to "actual."
Walter Chestnut is an excellent source to look at. https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/severe-covid-and-long-covid-as-rapid
Umm... everyone going to the site above be forewarned: Chesnut is really super smart, and what he's been uncovering is absolutely terrifying. Even if you don't understand it, it's terrifying.
A good friend of mine has autoimmune hepatitis that came on after jabs. Very sick and the meds she takes causes diabetes along with it. Shots every day. Her life is crap now. She hasn’t a clue. I
https://t.me/BryanArdis/175
See this posting made on 10/13/22. Will blow you away! HYPERBARIC OXYGEN TREATMENT can apparently reverse “various “irreversible” conditions. It is shown to be effective with the vaccine injured.
Watch video & then spread far & wide. There are ways to defeat the bio-weapon. And supposedly this treatment has been known since the 1920’s (maybe earlier?).
Thanks. I’ve heard of that and wondered where that treatment would be available. I like Dr Ardis.
Retinoid Toxicity is likely involved in liver damage and I am working on that in theory rather than in a clinic - it is likely causal for ME/CFS in LongCovid or after Epstein-Barr virus and may involve a gene change caused by the viral infection in order to help it infect endothelial or epithelial cells.
Conway, it's a depopulation war on us. I piss on all of them. This ain't freaken over
Agree, and no, it ain't.
There are studies and statistical analysis behind this reasonable theory.
After-vax birth rates down in at least 16 countries: Cambodia, China, Germany, Greece, Japan, Hong Kong, Hungary, Mongolia, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, UK. With sources and charts. https://sciencenews22.substack.com/p/birth-rates-dropping-in-germany-sweden?sd=pf
See also https://sciencenews22.substack.com/p/spike-proteins-and-the-damage-they
Yes. Are we all now up to date that these vaccines are a miracle gift from the DOD, and NOT pharmaceutical companies? Uh huh! That should clear up any questions, no?
Depopulation AND sterilization.
Yup, this.
Your conclusions follow your data.
We have known for years that Western Industrialized Society was unsustainable at current levels of population and that the wealthier people use the most resources. The ruling elites are doing something about it with the Plandemic.
Unsustainable according to whom? The food production has kept well ahead of the population growth. There are enough fossil fuel resources to keep things running for several hundred years if needed. Given human ingenuity I would say that we will find other ways of keeping things running long before we ran out fossil fuels. Climate change? Seriously? Have a look at the Roman records - they were growing vineyards in places far up north in the UK, places which are still too cold now to support that sort of crop. Greenland was settled by the Vikings because it was livable. It is all BS and it plays right in the hands of a bunch of psychos that would love to rule every corner of this world. How can these psychos get away with things that normally would cause upheaval? It is an emergency, it is a crisis - throw out the rule book and do this before the sky is falling. After the Covid scam, hopefully people will start to wake up to the reality.
Spot on Miko.
The Greek Trojan Horse duped the leaders of Troy. Now, a majority unaware of the lessons of history repeat the same today on a global scale.
Not saying you're necessarily wrong about the rest, but the quality of food is certainly in the toilet. Quantity is not everything.
Of course, that makes people sick, which is exactly what the planetary mafia wants.
I think that the quality of the food depends on the culture and the emphasis put on good quality product. Some of the things that were common practice in the UK for example would have been blasphemous in other parts of Europe (cow feed was incomprehensible - the cows were effectively cannibals). Similarly, in Belgium where some farms were using motor oil in the chicken and cow feed. BTW, the quality has gone done the drain for most things. Most things made in China are abysmal. Take for example washing machines - they used to last decades. Now if you get five years out of one, you are doing well. The quality of the clothing material is just appalling but people buy it anyway. To be honest I do understand it though as most people have problems paying key bills like electricity or gas.
100% agreement on psychos wanting to get the hoi polloi sick. Have a look at the concerted effort to get bug flour normalized. Never thought I would have to check for it but there you have it. Now it is necessary.
Broken washing machines are scrapped, melted and turned into new, washing machines.
Why, when the concept of 'Climate Change' comes up, do people think we're mad? What's wrong with just trying to live more sustainably...simply because you can?! What's wrong with trying to live more in harmony with the Earth instead of raping the world of its non-renewable resources and saying things like:
"There are enough fossil fuel resources to keep things running for several hundred years if needed. Given human ingenuity I would say that we will find other ways of keeping things running long before we ran out fossil fuels."
I think you'll find humans would only start focusing on other energy sources when they were but 15 years shy of running out! Humans aren't too smart in general. They act when and only if they have to, like a lazy lion.
If we want more non-renewable resources, we might just have to wait a few million years+ for all that plant matter to decompose enough. Not really likely. So then we move to nuclear power....and take MORE resources from the earth...and then we shoot the spent fuel rods into space because too many people are getting cancer from these rods buried all over the place....and the fish are getting weird or dying out with those that got dumped in the deep ocean...and then when all else fails, we try to colonise another planet....
In the meantime, we continue burning fossil fuels at stupidly high levels, polluting our air and ruining our health. Having done a Geology degree and having been a Chiropractor for 16 years, it seems a bit stupid for people to effectively shit in their water. Why not just make things work better over generations? And no, that does not include everyone eating bugs and living in high rises and doing everything the govt tells them to!
The thing is, climates DO change, that's pretty normal. Sometimes it's colder and sometimes it's warmer, and sometimes it's stormier, and there are levels upon levels of patterns at play.
There are some of us out there that would like us to all live in harmony a bit better - because if we don't, some crazies like Bill Gates & the WEF are going to crack down on us all and make most people adhere to their nutjob policies - which are basically unemotive ways to move forward as an effective insect colony.
I'm never going to wake up to us using up all the earth's non-renewable resources just because we can. We have a duty of care to this planet. It is our home. And we should respect it. Would we just take take take from our parents all the time, or would we give back sometimes? I think we've taken quite enough for quite long enough, and it's time to stop being so greedy as a species. BUT there are so many ways we can do this - kindly, ethically & humanely. People might do better looking at this from another angle.
We are not 15 years from running out of any energy source. That is rhetoric unhinged from physical reality.
Your rant is predicated on inaccurate nonsense
When I was in college I took an ecological science class. We were told that the world would be 100% depleted of every drop of oil in 22 years. I never forgot that.
However, I took that class in 1990. 2012 has come and gone and lo and behold, there is still oil to be found on planet Earth.
It is not just oil - there are massive resources of natural gas that are easily accessible so whenever I hear that we hit peak oil and we are done, I know that I am listening to someone with an agenda rather than someone that is honest and knows the facts.
Ummm...all I suggested was that humans would only start looking for other energy sources when they were down to their last 15 years of non-renewables. I didn't say WHEN that 15 years was. You are putting words in my mouth!!! Of course we have more than 15 years' worth of non-renewables in the ground. Perhaps you could've read my comment correctly, or perhaps I could've said "humans would only start SERIOUSLY focusing on PERMANENT ALTERNATE energy sources when they were but 15 years shy of running out OF NON-RENEWABLES" - would that make more sense to you?!
I still stand by my argument that humans aren't interested in change until they have their hand forced. And right now, even with covid and the crazy WEF, their hand is STILL not forced. For the most part, it will literally take oil wells running dry and natural gas reserves all becoming empty for people to go 'oh, what are we going to do now?'...! And that, my friend, is MANY years off, and so humans will do nothing to try to live more in harmony with the Earth in the meantime.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that the climate change or whatever it is called these days is a massive scam that is run by the same filth that gave Covid and the jabs. I am for cleaner living but I also want for things to improve not get worse. Smart people do things better - they do not go back to the stone age for the sake of Gaia. Every generation before the 60s tried to do things to improve the quality of life and ensure that their kids would do even better. That changed quickly and a lot of nonsense has become "the standard". The idea that we use too much shows that anti-human nihilism is accepted "wisdom" and fits better in a cult than a civilised world. Who judges what is too much and what is right? Typically, frauds or people that have no idea what they are talking about. I still remember the discussion between a local farmer and an "expert" in land management that came to educate the farmer on how to do "things in a sustainable manner". The idiot's advice was to stop burning the excess growth because that will improve the overall environment. Fortunately, the farmer ignored the "advice" and in the process kept his house and barns from burning down when a spot fire took hold on the property. These days all "clean living" is geared towards doing incredibly stupid stuff (how many people know the exploitation and pollution associated with an electric car?) because it is trendy or alternatively, we have give up fundamental stuff when it is not necessary (give up milk and replace with some chemical concoction that may have some traces of almond or something similar). If one were to do a realistic evaluation of the everything that is supposedly sustainable and echo-friendly, the results would be that these are massive scams that do great deal more harm than good and involve giving a bunch of non-elected filth absolute power over everything. Germany is an awesome example. They went green and spent more than 800 billion euro on wind and solar facilities and incentives. Solar in Germany, where in winter it gets dark at 4:30pm and it stays that way until 8am then next day. They were also dumb enough to close down their nuclear power plants though their country is tectonically stable. What did this get them? Most likely a bankrupt country that will shiver in winter. No thanks. I lived in communism and guess what? It was not fun living in poverty and Gaia did not get better. The people in the West need to wake up to the fact that all these peddlers of the "sustainable" living are complete frauds (Al Gore is a quintessential example) or are funded by world players that want complete dominance over the world. China builds coal power plants every week while the lemmings in the West demolish theirs. Utter insanity. In Victoria they have had power cuts because the idiot in charge went all green. The Chinese must be rolling on the floor laughing at the West's stupidity and ignorance.
Sure, countries sometimes make stupid decisions that don't suit their terrain. Maybe they should make better informed decisions. Or maybe they're just human and honestly can't do any better.
Even reading the science on it all, my Instinct says burning excessive fossils fuels (note I wrote 'excessive') is dumb and nuclear power is ludicrous.
I guess we will agree to disagree!
I expected better from the Germans to be honest. Their energy policies have been expensive and monumentally stupid for decades. It is as if they were in a competition to prove that they were the dumbest bunch in Europe and they paid stupendous amounts of money to prove it. Nuclear power has had a bad reputation and it is based on the assumption that we have no idea how to reuse or store properly the spent fuel. All nonsense but it is very catchy and gets people really worked up about it. The propaganda media that was so good at convincing people that the jabs are "safe and effective" and "stop transmission" are very much responsible for the hysteria (as usual the media is responsible for propagating and enforcing massive lies). BTW, the money for the campaign against nuclear power came from ... the Middle East (yep, the Arabs really care about the environment of the kuffa countries). If one is objective and informed, the opinion changes quickly. Ask the French - they get their power from nuclear and it worked out OK. In fact they are smart enough to build more.
Nuclear is a great example of my concerns with humans not changing tack.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/New-Recycling-Technique-Enables-Spent-Nuclear-Fuel-Rods-to-be-Used-Again.html
This is a great little article, even though it's from 2012. The comments are also very interesting.
Because humans are such great marketers to the point that they are willing to crush others' leaps forwards (think fossil fuel industry trying to crush their opposition), how are we, as a species, ever going to move forwards?
There's ALWAYS someone crying "It's safe & effective!" because they want to sell THEIR thing - regardless of whether it's helpful or good or safe or effective!
I don't trust nuclear because I don't trust humans. And because no matter what you do with spent fuel, there's still a LOT of half-lives to consider!! And my life and my grandkids' lives (and everyone else's!) will be well and truly over before we've even got this spent fuel rod business half-figured out. WE KNOW there's a radiation problem and we KNOW we have to bury them, like forever, but we still keep using it. Kind of reminds me of the heroin addict: "I know it's bad, but man! It feels so good!"
Safe and effective.
Riiiight.
See, this lack of trust is what KEEPS me alive - and if you converse with many people who didn't take the jab, you will find that there is a high percentage of them who are 'survivors' already (bad childhood, poor relationships, being oppressed in life by people/govt, bullying etc etc). Maybe we're lucky to be alive, but maybe we listened to our Intuition as well. Doesn't your intuition worry at least slightly about radiation risks on our biological system - and our DNA future - from using nuclear fuel?
I can’t “like” your comment w the heart. But like it I do. Spot on.
The fight over climate change has caused us to ignore
1) Oceans fished out
2) loss of soil nutrition
3) mass extinctions
And a ton of other serious issues.
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We've been living off a massive inheritance of natural resources, seemingly trying to spend them as fast as we can, and taking for granted the ability of the earth to transmute any poisons we put in it.
That is insane.
Not to mention a simple concept like respect for nature.
It is that - Respect For Nature.
I personally prefer nature that's green trees and oceans and even soil microbes to humans! Humans are Life, too, but they just don't know when to stop. When Nature puts the finger on us, we just press ahead anyway. Madness comes to mind.
People rarely see the big picture and are not so good as extrapolation. They see the Here And Now. They don't stop to think about the soil quality (which is where we grow our food), just that food turns up in supermarkets, so all must be well (enough). But have you not noticed how food, even organic, doesn't taste as good as it used to? Food is BLAND now - and that is because the soil is no good. And if we keep doing what we're doing, food won't be food at all in the future. People are hurtling towards dystopia and they can't, no, WON'T see it. They call you and I mad and continue on their hellbent path. All we're doing is asking people to consider other options. But it seems that is too hard for most people :-(
Solar PV is the CHEAPEST source of electricity NOW. Solar pants are made of glass and silicon. Such are made from sand.
We had a hybrid solar system + batteries for 5+ years (until we sold that place). It was fantastic. Amazingly efficient system. And when the locals all got blackouts...we didn't! Silent electricity. Awesome. We're getting one on our new place soon.
I think the elite have been forced to embrace solar. They neg it as much as possible all the while pouring money into solar farms. solar puts a spanner in their CO2 is killing the planet BS. Battery technology and mining is moving leaps and bounds (IBATF extracts lithium direct from brine with no pollution). Soon your car will have solar paint, get 20 miles a day free into its batteries and be topped up by house solar.
Robyn I honestly don’t think that most of us here are all about raping Mother Earth for all her resources until she flops over dead. What needs to happen first is for the culling of the best and brightest to immediately stop. For all we know the person who would have invented that which would have saved us all will now no longer be born because his or her mother died suddenly and unexpectedly at 16, or 20 or some other outrageous age because she was helping the world by getting a Covid shot. We must stop the travesty at hand to have hope for the future.
Mother Earth was supposed to flop over dead after the BP oil disaster.
And Chernobyl.
And any number of other disasters.
Perhaps Mother Earth is more resilient than we can imagine.
Or perhaps humans aren't quite as impactful as we think.
Agreed. Most do not want to totally ruin the Earth or have unnecessary deaths. But perhaps we are MEANT to have this travesty occur because it is the culmination of Modern Times and could almost be considered a homage to how we have lost our Instinct.
Or perhaps those who are here today are not actually MEANT to be here - except by the grace of modern medicine? After all, if you give life, you can take it away. Modern medicine has certainly taken a lot of lives, but it has also extended lives. Now they are taking them. In some twisted way, I think they have the right. If multiple generations are not going to stand up for their Instinct and instead hand it over to TPTB, you can't exactly complain that you're not getting treated well. People. in the western world especially, have been living in a dreamworld for decades. Nature just says it's time to burst that bubble, I guess...
No one is saying we have to just keep going with gas and oil and pollution.....what they have learned is there is no shortage, so stop the fear mongering of scarcity of energy into the consciousness and let’s buckle down and find cleaner energy . It’s hard to concentrate on new renewables when you are in fear all the time. I haven’t spoken to one person who didn’t know we have to clean up and change our mindsets about energy. There are quite a few patents that are not being allowed that would solve this problem.
But, given that most people read and watch only MSM sources, they have mostly bought into the ideas that 'the end is nigh' and 'something must be done'.
We can only hope that the coming winter (in cold places like the UK) will convince more of them that the current direction will make the rest of their lives increasingly miserable.
I hope you wake up to the damage you can do.. clodhopping around the world destroying everything in sight... time to go extinct don't you think? Or would you rather take us all down with you?
I am well awake to nonsense pushed by a lot of either ignorant or devious people. It is a free world. Anyone who thinks that the answer is to go back to the stone age because of the climate or environment crisis is welcomed to get a head start. Go build a mud shack in the middle of nowhere and live off the land. Without fire or meat - watch out for that nasty carbon. In 40-50 years, everything can be re-evaluated based on actual evidence of how the world progresses, not some made up nonsense compiled by some dim bulbs that never stepped out of a city. No one is stopping those who want to live like our ancestors did 5000 years ago, as in before larger settlements were becoming common. As you put it so well, if that is what some people want, why I should have to go down with them? I had same nonsense preached to me about the Covid jab - "You endanger me, anti-vaxxer! How can you be so selfish and kill the elderly?".
I've noticed that everyone who is for depopulation only wants everyone else to die. They never lead by example.
Absolutely. The ones pushing this nonsense are also the ones that are "more equal" than us and need to stay around. Isn't their selfless sacrifice touching?
They're HELPING us, by killing us.
Next, they're planning to HELP us by taking our food and money.
It's the more affluent who are having the higher death rates and lower birth rates...
I'm for depopulation Don, but the natural method when more affluent people decide to not have kids.. when the kids are so damn dysfunctional that they can't mate... That's the non violent way it should happen... others say nuclear war is the way... they're psychos tho.
Malthus has been used by the ruling classes to justify their thefts of the commons for generations. But just on its own, Malthusianism is just wrong, not just morally wrong but factually wrong. The Science of Scarcity of Thatcher and Reagan will give way to a new way of thinking more like that of FDR and JFK.
Agreed.
Logan's Run and many other dystopian novels ...
lol Good point.
Ah, but I have already said that I am happy to go if depopulation is on the agenda. BUT I'm not going without a fight, and without a good cause. Currently I feel I can do more living than dead.
Illogical, but more power to you. Perhaps everyone who is alive feels they can do more living than dead.
🤣🤣🤣 So true!
You keep going the way you are and we will be living in a new stone age.. not just the climat my friend.. plenty of systems are collapsing.. fish in the sea, insects on the land.. going going going.....
Heh, I will take my chances. The sky has been falling since the 70's and it is still falling. This end of the world nonsense reminds of the cultists that keep warning the non-believers and then having to re-adjust each time a new end of days date passed by.
However, as I said before, it is a free world and I am very much of the opinion "Live and let live". As long as people stop pestering me with this sort of nonsense, all good. The saddest thing about all this is that things can be done to improve life and because of doom predictors we let opportunities pass us by. The "experts" were saying that the East Coast of Australia was going to be increasingly drier and hence no point in building any more dams - not enough rain to fill them. That was 20 years ago - the last 18 years have seen a ton more rain than in the previous 2 decades. Just ask the people in Queensland. Where I live, the place was supposed to be deserted by now because of lack of rain. Nope, none of that "expertly" predicted stuff happened. If these "sages" would have checked the historical records, they would have seen that this is all cyclical and us humans have a far smaller impact than claimed.
Sane thoughts. I saw a painting of the Rock of Gibralter back in like 1620?... and another photo of it today, more or less, but recently. SAME LEVEL of the ocean...
And how many of us can go and count the polar bears? It seems, actually that they're doing okay.
Sigh.
This FEAR mongering really works...
The fact that there are cycles doesn't mean humans have little impact. The trouble is we take sides in this debate according to our biases and not according to evidence which is far more difficult to parse than the data that Igor puts out. It's a big ol chaos out there and we're learning more about it all the time. They are getting pretty good at predicting the weather a week or two out so there's that. But i think we ought to be cautious rather than blusterous. Like in Ukraine. Maybe not go taunting a nuclear power. Know what i mean?
What makes you different? You are obviously on an Internet connected computer. What powers it? What do you eat? Where do you live, in a building? What resources do you delete at your job?
I live in a cabin surrounded by fir forests.. plenty to burn.. i grow a good percentage of my own food.. i'm on a micro hydro system.. i don't have a job per se... i do drive a car... not that many can live like me tho... and i do consider many who have jobs in the city shuffling paper around are kinda like useless eaters... they tend to just make life harder for people with their excess bureaucracy... but on the bright side they're having less children now
Where is your PROOF of this? Or are you just listening to the TV?
Yes Miko, tell them straight!
It's this sort of attitude that has me perplexed. On one hand you and plenty of others with similar views will join forces with people (whom you might not normally) over covid, but you'll resort to the "can't see it, can't hear it" type of thinking with regards to the climate and the planet and energy sources.
Is the crux of it that most people are deathly afraid of returning to cave-man status (which honestly is about where we all belong as a species in my books! The silicon chip is WAAAAY too advanced for us) - without their computers and their modern day lifestyles?
boriquagato/el gat malo/Bad Cattitude have subscribers galore with your type of thinking. They pooh-pooh anyone who thinks differently when it comes to climate/energy - yet if we close off that debate, we are no different to those who are pro-covid vs those who are anti-covid. People are just not very good at keeping open minds it would seem!
Maybe I'll just go back to writing my books and not bother with these substacks. I write my comments not for me, but for others to consider, but I think I've mostly come to the end of the line on it. People are people and they've always been people and they like to fight and cause problems and sometimes solve them and often make them worse. They have their good points but they have more bad than good IMO. Perhaps the religious are right - we ARE sinners. So do we keep living in sin and not truly learn, or do we realise we are also capable of rising above it all? The problem is that so few ARE capable of rising above it all, Miko. How do you save a species when most of them don't even know they need saving?! I think the answer is: you don't. We're living in very perplexing times...
The modern lifestyle in the West as it is right now is not something that I would regard as a model to copy. I would argue that the current model is something to avoid as it is designed to destroy the family unit and all aspects of morality. It is clearly devoid of purpose and self destructing. The US large cities are a showcase of how bad things get when people without purpose and morals are in charge. They care only about power and will do anything to keep that power. You get more dead in Chicago every weekend than you get on the border of Armenia & Azerbaijan which is still in a low level state of war.
I think that tech is now way overused and if the society is to improve, mind destroying garbage like Tik Tok and Faceborg/Metaborg needs to be gone, permanently. It only encourages a selfish, drone like mentality that got us in the Covid mess almost overnight. Instead of spending time with family, way too many people spend time on pointless garbage in front of a screen. No wonder so many people are depressed. They are literally at sea without a working rudder.
On energy and climate, it is a case that we just disagree. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. In the case of nuclear energy I have had a look at the facts and I see things very differently. Just for disclosure, I was roughly 900 kms away from Chernobyl when that mess happened. I also have nuclear physicist friends who have had very interesting views on the topic (definitely no consensus there). Hence, I think I understand the risks about nuclear power well enough. The reaction of most people is somewhat understandable as most of the information they get is from the media which is not in any shape or form a neutral arbiter.
The climate change business is definitely a massive scam and not all changes lead to the end of world. I could go on for pages on the failed "predictions" of how everything is getting worse and we have only 10-20 years to save ourselves. Not true. I still have the cut outs of the articles from the late 1990's and early 2000's saying that the UK will never see snow after the 2008. I kept copies because I recognized then that this was nonsense and I wanted to keep the evidence. Every single generation there has been a group that would agitate about some world calamity and like at all times in history, the world kept moving on especially once the doomsday predictions failed to materialize. The difference is that this is now being actively weaponized against everyone by well resourced psychos that want a1984 kind of world that they get to run. I do not want a world in which I am not allowed to travel because of carbon emissions. I do not want a world in which I have to eat bugs because apparently it saves the planet (which it does not). Yet that is the direction we are heading if we go along with the climate change scam. Covid was an eye opener of what happens idiots and psychos get a free pass to do whatever they please.
Final point - I like the Substack format especially in the format that Igor runs. Everyone gets a say and that is why it is worth reading. It provides alternate points of view and often one learns new facts. I read it and post on it because it allows almost 100% uncensored discussion - I have no expectations of agreement from the readers of my posts and I will say it one more - you are entitled to your own opinion and have every right to support your view with whatever facts/info you deem useful. Giving up on the platform because there is disagreement on some topic is unfortunate but again, everyone makes their own decisions.
Newsweek article, April 28, 1975: "Cooling World." I have a copy of it on my computer, it was called "climatic" change then. We were supposedly heading into a mini ice age of sorts. All kinds of dire predictions just like we are hearing now. Hilarious to read, a 47 year old blast from the past, and perhaps the birth of the climate change scam industry.
Thanks for your thoughts. Seems you have acquired some knowledge in your years!
Perhaps the climate change 'business' is indeed a massive scam, and I'm certainly not about to boot over people's businesses or farmland that are working right now just because they're suddenly considered as causing 'too much' pollution in some bureaucrat's calculations.
However, trying to look after the Earth because it is a more natural way to live and be is not a scam. I don't want to eat bugs or live in high-rises or not be able to travel any more than you! But it just seems that any time anyone mentions something about being nice to the Earth, they are labelled as 'climate change crazies' and laughed at, just as if they were willingly wearing masks and taking jabs.
I'm all for making the world a cleaner place and living sustainably, but over much TIME. After all, we're not the only ones who live here. Governments should be supporting measures like renewable energy research and better farming practices etc, not just effectively saying 'we have to close down your farms unless you all move to organic farming right now'. That one didn't work out too well, did it?! It might've been a good idea in the long-term, but it had a stupid implementation.
And yes, I like Igor's substack. He's a nice guy, has a great sense of humour, appeals to many by how and what he writes - and everyone mostly gets a reasonable say. But writing comments to try to say what's in/on your mind is not always the easiest. A lot gets lost in translation, shall we say.
Agree agree agree
Honestly Robyn, read “fossil future”, you don’t even have to get very far into it and you will understand what we “climate deniers “ are talking about. Alex Epstein is a philosopher and even concedes that humans may be driving CO2 levels up but he exposes the corruption in our climate and energy sector knowledge systems so beautifully. I used to believe that vaccines are safe, I used to give my kids all of them but now my eyes are open and I was very, very wrong before. Similarly I ask that you read the above mentioned book and then feed back to us. I don’t want you to give up on Substack
I went and looked up that book today. But I am not about to read it. Instead, from the many book reviews and comments that I read, it seems to me that Alex is 'negging' people. He comes up with his own little definitions like 'anti-impact' & 'climate mastery' - and then proceeds to tell people that they're basically immoral for not putting THEMSELVES first.
The whole thing is ultimately based on humans being self-centred - and making up arguments to suit themselves so that they can keep doing what they want to do.
I know I am only here because the Earth supports me, not because I 'impact' the Earth. It's a symbiotic relationship and I hope it will remain that way.
But humans are humans, and most are egocentric beyond belief. I think it's highly improbable to save such people. I've been wrong before, and no doubt I'll be wrong again. After all, I am only human! :-D
No vaccines have crossed my threshold since 15+ years ago because I realised just how they bad they were for me. My kids are vaccine-free and eat well and, on our property, we try to live in relative harmony with Nature.
So like Tarun, I think my hubby & I will just enjoy and maintain our country property, grow our food and help our kids to grow as well. What will happen to the world will happen.
I haven't read the book but it does seem all the rage now not only on the right which is not surprising, but on the socialist left too.. Trouble with both crowds seems to be a loe of materialism in a human centric world. Socialism traditionally for sure. Nature is here for our pleasure only. No intrinsic value of its own. It's also a traditional Christian notion, the idea of a dead material world that God has given us to lord over. So with those sorts of biases, any book that offers unlimited opportunity for further exploitation with no repercussions would be welcome. I think better to go back to the stone age and start over..
What a bizarre thing to say. Perhaps you need a bit more education...
Check out some REAL science and don't listen to bullshit about "climate crisis." This is how the Bad Guys put a worm in your brain.
So you're saying trust the science.. and you understand the science do you? or are you just getting your trusted info from the authorities you trust? like big coal and nuclear?? i thought so.
LOL Excuse me? What? Oh, just fill in whatever I've said that you don't understand with whatever comes into your mind! What are you, thirteen?
I trust ACTUAL science when it's making sense and logical TO THE POINT that it is understandable and seems to function in the world. Science isn't religion. Science is about questioning, always. But when things seem to be working, you use them and they continue to be working, then you use them. You are clearly having trouble understand the difference between science and people TELLING you what to think.
And I don't think I've said ANYTHING about "big coal and nuclear." Anywhere.
People with high ego and anger levels tend not to be good at weighing the actual evidence. There's a lot of them on here. Sure in the pandemic anyone with a bullshit meter that was half working could see through the facade. It's a little trickier when it comes to the state of the natural world. We don't want our rights taken from us and one of those rights is to do with the world whatever the hell we want when we want. It's the American way for God's sake. I'm not really sure God wants any part of it however. Yeah we don't want our freedoms impinged upon and that includes freedom to fuck things up real good. So keep on ignoring the warning signs and party like it's 1899.
And I'm not going to further argue with incoherent people who appear to have overdosed on meth and fentanyl.
Have you woke up to the damage you do clodhopping around the world destroying everything in sight? Have you gone extinct or would you rather take us all down with you?
vhemt.org ... just for you
Zackly. It's that bunch of psychos that are trying to get us to believe in a "climate crisis." Surprised? I doubt it. You're on it.
And the push to sterilize children from wealthy families under the guise of “gender affirmation.”
Oh. They don’t have to be wealthy (us standard wealthy). Insurance pays for it and the surgery. How do I know? My grandkid is going thru it. It’s heartbreaking snd I have no input.
“Insurance pays for it” well well well. Does anyone think gender medicine would be exploding if this weren’t the case?
A year or two ago, I saw an article on the "men behind the trans movement."
It was a bunch of gay men in big pharma.
Isn't it quite OFTEN a bunch of men, whatever, in Big Pharma?
They might as well be called Big Mafia.
I'm so sorry, Janet! I literally cannot even imagine - I would be furious! Best wishes to your grandchild......
Thank you. ❤️
I am furious but what can I do? She’s doing ok. But what did I know at 16? What did I know of real life? Nada.
Sending a Virtual Hug to you. I know what that helplessness feels like. xo
Spend your kids inheritance. Or at least pretend to. Tell them your grandkid won’t need it as they won’t be having children. Inheritances should be for paying for children only.
Interesting. The way TPTB are siphoning our retirement investments out of our accounts there won’t be much left for them to inherit.
Am sorry your grandchild is in such a bizarre and disturbing situation.
I appreciate that. The puberty blockers have significant side effects. Joint pain has limited her activity level so she is putting on weight. I’m sure this child was damaged by the HPV jab because a normal 10 yr old girl then became riddled with OCD ADHD and on the spectrum (before the trans thing) Why her parents allowed this to happen is beyond me. The psychologists go along with this of course and insurance paid for the mutilation. And meds. I have no idea how they think this child can go away to college in 2 years. I despair. My only grandchild. Their only child.
I’m so sorry, Janet. May God give you a lot of wisdom and grace. And I pray he somehow brings your grandkid out of this and redeems what the locusts are eating.
I hope that you are not serious in this comment and that it is sarcasm??
I am totally serious. The ruling elites basically look at people like animals on a factory farm. I have no doubt that they would cull the herd if they thought it useful to themselves.
They've done it before, they'll do it again. Pesky humans!
Next will be a modest proposal
“Beyond Bugs” burgers
Have you tried Soylent Green? Very tasty. Why waste available resources, especially excess ones.
I agree. If you are worried about finite resources and how you control them on a finite planet. And you thought logically about the problem. You would likely conclude it may be most effective to minimize the number of those using and depleting those resources.
And then if you wanted to analyse where the greatest causative factor came from that used those resources the most, in order to eliminate or otherwise minimize this consumption process. You would likely find the developed world uses disproportionately more than the less developed nations per household or per person.
And so. If you wanted to make the greatest possible impact in the most effective way, in order to best and most easily manage those finite resources... Where would you start?
I would start with the global elites! They have homes that dwarf ours. They own more cars than I’v had my entire life. They use more resources than probably 10 regular folks. So, my logical answer to this would be.....”YOU FIRST”.
Indeed. The poster child for this is Al Gore. His house is, if I recall, about 10k sq. ft. and uses the energy of 3 or more regular homes COMBINED. Of course he does massive travel, etc. When he moves into a tiny house and gets around all the time on a bike, I'll begin to take these stooges a bit more seriously. Seriously.
I agree and consider that a population decrease until a sustainable level would be highly beneficial for us and for the planet.
For example, in the area where I live, we have 400 persons/km2, but the land, forests, water can only sustain 40 persons/km2 by my calculations. If the same appplies to the planet, that would mean 800 millions instead of 8 billions people.
+HOWEVER+ I consider that reducing population is a personal choice. Hence, any population decrease can only be achieved in the long-term, through education and possibly economic incentives.
Why, for example, should there be tax incentives for people wishing to have children IF this is not in-line with a long-term objective of reducing the population? Or why should we spend so much money in maintaining artificially alive the elderly? I think these are valid and reasonable questions.
Consequently, I strongly oppose any attempt to depopulate by using weapons, wars, covid vaccines, etc.
I reject your premise as anti human. We have the resources to feed 7 billion and more. An excellent resource is “Fossil Future” by Alex Epstein.
It is not only about the resources needed or available to feed 7 or 10 billion people for that matter, but how we exploit eco-systems on the one hand and what it means in terms of consequences for our freedoms and security on the other.
Clearly, the more we are, the more authoritarian and totalitarian the society organize itself (look at the history of societies which makes that perfectly clear). This, on its own, is a consequence of over-population I do not consider acceptable.
In addition, feeding more and more people requires high specialization of plants and animal species, use of fertilizers etc. up to a point where significant risk is built in because of the lack of diversity (i.e., following droughts, floods, warm or cold periods, sicknesses ...).
I prefer not to live on a planet ready to collapse at every turn because it is "highly optimized", with 8 billion people, polluted water, air, soils, no trees, few animal species etc. and, foremost, under a global dictatorial regime.
The solution to that is to gradually reduce population through education and incentivization, as well as keeping in check our ecological footprint, making the best use of the finite resources we have at our disposal.
I consider these objectives to be pro-human, i.e., allowing humans to live in harmony with nature and minimizing wars etc. I understand the "Darwinian" view though, which is to say that humans are made to evolve through innovation and competition, that after we reach 12 billion and collapse, only the fittest will survive etc. etc... I just don't think that pathway is particularly smart if you look at what happens when animal population collapse.
I've seen calculations that the earth can easily support 80 billion people.
I really believe we have to consider this. We see the blatant lack of concern for life and limb from the ruling class. Just the banksters alone would pull the economic rug out from under us in a NY minute--helped along by our government. Hmmm. Back in 2008......
I understand. You are probably not wrong. But there are two ways to achieve the desired outcome.
1) Better systems to manage the finite resources
2) or less consumption of those resources.
But if you want the quickest and most effective way. You do both simultaneously. It's not anti human. It's cold psychopathic logic. Like a computer or AI system decided on it.
I don't agree with it. It's just the simplist and most effective solution to the problem.
I agree. The concept of minimizing the use of resources isn't a bad one in the long term. It is the method they deployed to achieve it that is terrible.
Education and incentives is a much better method. All it takes is a few generations to have less children and to use less resources. A change from globalized materialism to local economies, self sustainability and improved automation.
We would be halfway there in half a century. But no. Let's instead give everyone cancer and disease. Let's play God.
There is not overpopulation. This is a falsehood. The Malthusian maniacs have been claiming this for 200+ years and they have been wrong every time.
The number of people <=15 is under 2B. This number hasn't changed substantially in several decades. Many Western countries are so far into depopulation (Italy for example) that there is no feasible way for locally generated economic recovery/growth due to lack of people and low birth rates.
The Malthusian acolytes are going to get their wish, an it's going to be very ugly.
Western Europe, the cradle of Western Civilisation is self-terminating.
The global food chains are crumbling and this means large parts of Africa and some other places will starve ... no fertilizer and tractors means no food.
Buy popcorn, we have a front row seat.
The greatest possible impact in the most effective way is to
GET THE FACTS.
There is no "climate crisis." There is no "scarcity." Get the ring out of your nose and stop being led around by nefarious muffos.
By working towards peace among all peoples. But that's just me.
Don I think your suggestion is the one that can prevail
Um... they're doing it RIGHT NOW. Hellooooo?
Aah I see, you are stating their horrible position not yours
This is Malthusianism.
It is sold as an end that supposedly justifies the means, but it is a lie.
It is a lie that has been used to justify social darwinism for centuries.
Malthusianism is a lie that is sold through propaganda. It is put forward as a means to justify the real factual but deliberately obscured end, the control of all the earth and its resources by a very few.
yes. people come with hands as well as mouths.
Yes, spot on
Agree completely Yet Another Tommy.
see also https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/is-uks-depopulation-caused-by-covid/comment/9743852
On the contrary, the wealthier the society the better the environment is protected.
Define 'unsustainable'?
Define your 'sustainable' cut-off?
Define 'resources'?
Define wealthiest?
Define 'we' and 'for years'?
What implicit hand waving nonsense.
Sources: Overall: Johan Morberg. Progress: Ten Reasons to Look Forward to the Future 1) World Bank 2) World Bark 3) UN IGME. 4) UN. 5) ILGA. 6) World Bank. 7) Our World in Data. 8) Our World in Data. 9) McAfee. More From Less 2019. 10) Freedom House. Data collecting takes time. so some numbers refer to 2007-2017. 2008-2018 or 2009-19.
Define ego?
Believing you have the right to tell others that they don't have the right to exist but you do? Hypocritically failing to lead by example?
I strongly disagree that there is a population problem; that is propaganda and has no actual evidence to support it. What IS clear is that due to direct fuckery, there are plenty of people who have no, or very limited, access to food and/or clean water. There is a pollution issue, and the MILITARY is the biggest polluter by far, far, far. What we have here is a culmination of decades, centuries, of oligarchal lies and fuckery; why people are now mistrusting almost everyone and everything, is because of this same Evil we are seeing now so concentrated and amped up that it's become a global genocide... And the financial fuckery is online to begin soon. Starvation brought about deliberately... We're in for a very rough ride.
I would further say, and agree with you, that the ruling elitist pathological oligarchy in general are the "useless eaters" they complain about; they are the problem, they are the reason we're all in this mess. It is THEIR lies that are being issued as "reality" when we hear that the Earth is in "crisis," because it's not the Earth, its the PEOPLE on the Earth.
There are two sides here.. the elites that want to enslave the rest of us and the rest of us who just want to go on with our lives like it's 1999. Of course i would prefer the latter even though they are in great illusion and the world will fall apart anyways....
I think you're freaking out. I can understand why. But jumping all over me because I disagree with you is not going to help. I'm saying the BAD guys are putting out this bullshit about climate "crisis" and too many people and the World is Ending... I'm saying it's bullshit, and I'm backed by EVIDENCE. Go and find it, it's there, that evidence. And calm down, because the REAL trouble are the people SAYING THIS bs. The world is NOT falling apart, but there is trouble... not with the WORLD, with the insane oligarchs that want to control everything.
I do agree that the 'climate crisis' is overhyped by shitlib media for their own purposes. They only report news that fits their agenda. But there are multiple stressors on the environment. I live in the country and grow my food. Ten years ago my green houses were full of insects making a big racket bouncing off the plastic. Now it's silent spring. That's my personal experience. There are many other things going wrong. Shit's going to hit the fan. It is hitting the fan.
I agree, sister? Brother? Whatever, I AGREE. See my comment of a couple of minutes ago.
I noticed this too.
Where do you live?
I live on the South Coast of the UK.
the interior of British Columbia... It does seem global in scope... loss of habitat is the prominent reason according to a google search... but no one is talking about it much.. stangely... too many existential threats crowding in on us now i guess
People should read Julian Simon and see why the "chicken little" warnings about "we're running out of resources" is BS.
https://www.cato.org/economic-development-bulletin/julian-simon-was-right-half-century-population-growth-increasing
And Alex Epstein’s “Fossil Future “
Call it UTOPIA https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2384811
Your theory is backed up by the data.. they killin themselves.
Igor, you are one of the best independent journalists I know! I wish you were a New York Times or Washington Post Reporter! Your articles have the potential to destroy the whole official narrative within minutes. Can you buy one of these mainstream media news outlets?? Imagine you buy the New York Times! Then you can really spread this information to a huge audience! Maybe we should ask Steve Kirsch if he has some million dollars for this purpose,....
Could you at least upload the results of your statistical analyses to a preprint server?? Although there would still be people who say "this is not peer reviewed", a preprint can have a stronger influence (on the medical community) than a substack article...
Thank you for your compliment :-) They would never hire me and I would never agree to work for them
That is why you should own the place Igor!
the CIA owns the new york times.
When they say, as they do, ALL the news that's FIT TO PRINT, what they actually mean is,
The new york judith miller slimeees will give an official story that is sanitized of any actual news, and print that as it sees fit.
Except, they seem to be a bit worried about nUkraine, as Russian missiles can reach the buildings they operate out of , and they knows it now. But will they start telling the truth? hold your breath for 3 seconds, click your heels and say there's no place like home...
Court Orders CDC to Release Data Showing 18 Million Vaccine Injuries in America
https://www.technocracy.news/court-orders-cdc-to-release-data-showing-18-million-vaccine-injuries-in-america/
Thanks so much for sharing!
Ouch
Once all other causes are ruled out, microwave radiation from new cell towers, glyphosphate levels in food, suicides from job losses, then the mRNA injections look like the most likely cause. That being said, the temporal relationship seems to be most closely correlated with the mRNA.
Thank you for all you do, courageous doctor.
I think at this point many of us have realized that you don't really need to be Sherlock Holmes to realize some big truths.
Yeah Dr Nagase was one of the first doctors I saw speaking out on video releasrd online. I had some serious doubts, but watching him speak in particular helped me realize I wasn't crazy.
So thanks Dr Nagase.
And his partner (?) Dr Bruchet ended up, Soviet-style), in the psyche ward
“... you don't really need to be Sherlock Holmes to realize some big truths.”
Very well said KOA! Ur statement makes a really great quote!! If I use it, I will credit you as the source.
The good doctor used a sherlockian-sounding statement in his comment, which drove my response.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." —Sherlock Holmes
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Holmesian_fallacy
Absolutely. But in response to your own substack post. It is most likely planned depopulation undertaken in order to preserve resources.
We have a failing fiat based economy and money itself can't feed anyone. It won't keep you warm. Food feeds people. Jackets, housing and electricity keep you warm. Money is just the middleman. They know this. They always have.
But the resources they matter. And us useless eaters use up many of them.
But if you nuked the earth you might do serious or permanent damage to it. Chemical weapons create prolonged toxic environments. And a bio-weapon or plague would likely place you and your own family at risk...
But if you scared people enough with a bunch of targeted biological releases. Creating panic. Knowing the agent will quickly devolve or mutate into something less toxic because it was programmed this way. You could easily create a scare and then lead the population into poisoning themselves with the cure. And you could do all this whilst sitting on a remote island somewhere sipping cocktails under the palm trees. Further minimizing the risk to yourself.
15%, eh? Recall that Gates once said he wanted to reduce the population by "10-15%".
Strange things are happening. And it all points in one direction.
Yeah kind of like a store cashier, that often makes mistakes counting change, but all mistakes benefit the cashier
Yup, one direction.
The road to the Gates of hell is paved with good intentions and we are on it.
The Gates of hell lives amongst us and is recommending we read yuval harari books.
“The road to the Gates of hell is paved with good intentions and we are on it.”
Another great quote!! Boy, ur knocking it out of the park KOA! Will credit you if I use it.
Bill Gates of Hell may be better.
Did anyone see that rather odd Deagal 2025 world population forecast? The document seems to have disappeared from the internet but it showed some alarming reductions in populations. At the time i couldn't figure it out but now I see. I wonder how they knew?
I did see it -- and I do not know what to make of it -- but I am cognizant
https://www.ahava528.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Deagel-Analysis-updated.pdf
Good one nymusicdaily
China isn't on the list....??
And when did the Deagel data appear?
So where did Deagel get their figures from?
us department of defense, 2014. no surprise it's been disappeared
They obviously knew way back in 2014 that some major event was coming that would wipe out huge numbers of people. I can’t see SARS Cov 2 get the numbers down as low as what they predicted by 2025. Who knows what else is on the horizon?
baric started work on sars at UNC-Chapel Hill in 1999
There’s some seriously big numbers in some of those reductions: US down to 99 million. Uk down to 14.5 million. To do that by 2025 can mean only one thing. Hint - it rhymes with buclear for.
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I think so Dollyboy
Yes I saw it. And yes it was weird. And yes it's gone now. And here's an archive copy of the page showing US population dropping by 60%. https://web.archive.org/web/20200828083314/https://www.deagel.com/country/United%20States%20of%20America
Clicked, saw the numbers but no explanation. First thought was Nuclear War
This may tie in with the Deagal
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/omicron-gain-of-function-research
Yeah I read the bad cat too. He’s very good. Problem with a highly virulent virus is they don’t last very long. A global population of weakened immune systems however ... now would be the time. If you leave it too long people’s immune systems may start repairing themselves.
Deagel.
Thank you!
Of course it is!
You’ve got to wonder what all our health regulators are doing while all this data exposes the truth.
They’re like the 3 monkeys, see no evil hear no evil speak no evil
They are trying to "move on" as they are complicit - all knew that the jabs were harmful and instead of stopping the horror, they pushed all the way via mandates and home detention. These people need to be charged with mass murder and put away for the rest of their lives. No one will ever know the true extent of the number of injured and dead.
If you read Ethical Sceptic in Twitter, they're busily reclassifying deaths, trying to hide them amongst a diminishing covid impact, but their fig leaf gets smaller by the day. Did you hear yesterday about the 20 year old major league baseball player that died of lymphoma, diagnosed last summer? I wonder what else happened last summer?
Maybe they are trying to hide it behind a curtain...although it's sheer/ transparent. Image of Toto and the Wizard of Oz keep coming to my mind lately....oh past 3 years or so actually. Those monkeys you mentioned too.
I’ve also wondered whether individually none of them want to be the one that speaks up. Due to groupthink
With adverse events to medical devices in NZ the specialists and drs all play dumb. None of them want to be the one to blame a medical device for harm as they get investigated by the medical council if they do. Could be a bit of that kind of thinking going on too
The medicos with few exceptions have proven beyond any doubt to be corrupt ("Do no harm to the bank account"), incapable of critical thinking or both. In short, the exact type of people you do NOT want in medicine. The accountability needs to be applied to both the pollies and the medicos as they are both guilty of the worst crime in the last 80 years or so.
I agree. Multiple factors at play here. Good to be aware of them though. Pretty devious and intricately detailed.
I think this makes a strong case about the birth rates being connected to the vaxxiines. However, it is really interesting that highly vaxxinated Sweden has considerably lower excess mortality than most other (if not all?) European countries. What is going on there? They were the only country without lockups (I'm still not calling them lockdowns because these were lockups), and they also never mandated face diapers. The Occam's razor explanation would be that while the vaxxiines are undoubtedly bad, the most excess deaths were either caused by the lockups and/or somehow connected to the face diapers, maybe they hamper the immune system more that previously thought?
This is a great point and something that needs to be explored
Could it be linked to more early exposure to the virus in Swedish population BEFORE vaccine rollout, resulting in a different (protective/neutralising) response to vaccine spike protein in the Swedes compared to other countries. Something along those lines.
There is no evidence of "the virus" existing:
https://odysee.com/@halloftruth:c/the-final-refutal-of-virology-dr-stefan-lanka:6
Yes, the PULL FORWARD EFFECT
Two things come to mind. The first is that, face masks are a negative - Italian studies showed that after less than 4 hours, masks accumulate a lot of nasty bacterial stuff that you would not want to breath in. Anyone breathing in that stuff is more likely to pick some bug which impacts your immunity until you clear it.
Second, the type of vax and who received it is important as well. The vax is bad for all ages but the younger people get hit significantly and these are the people that are least likely to drop dead. If the Swedes jabbed their elders more, then it may explain the lower excess mortality as they would be likely to pass on anyway. Was Murderna used in larger numbers in Sweden? I have no specific info but I do know that Sweden was one the Scandinavian countries that steered away from it because of the side effects. If it was only Pfizer, that again may explain the lower numbers - Murderna is really awful, one average three times the amount of MRNA that they squeeze into Pfizer.
Comparing with Norway Sweden had much more excess mortality in 2020. In 2021 they both had excess in the second half i.e. following infection with 'the vaccine'. In 2022 Sweden seems to have less excess but this could just be because more died earlier on. I don't really see that the data shows much difference with Sweden since you would expect a trough after a wave up and there isn't really one indicating there is still excess. It is similar like Hungary where there is very pronounced excess earlier on with 2022 more normal but with such pronounced excess there should be a substantial trough that is not there. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count?time=earliest..latest&country=~NOR
1000%
Good point regarding face masks. I noticed that manual workers were much less likely to wear masks than the middle classes.
Igor hasn’t taken into account that the early vaccination in the UK were largely Astra Zeneca so not mRNA. Boosters were nearly all mRNA. Friends of mine had to get a special dispensation to continue with AZ as boosters.
Maybe by living more or less "normally ", more people were infected and overcame the virus (not a stretch with a mortality rate far south of 1%). Maybe being exposed outcompetes the injection if it's given after virus exposure? Just thinking out loud here.
Perception vs Reality: Last week’s conspiracy theories are this week’s spoiler alerts. Devastating but true. You knew it all along, Igor. I thank God daily for you and the other substack heroes.
and thank you!!!
Come on Igor, this is called speed of $cience
haha
I'm in my mid-50s' so mostly my friends are way past child bearing but they are generally a university educated 'liberal' type who happily ran to grab their "life saving vaccine" (I use the term loosely).
So that checks out with your research regarding the class system here in the UK and the middle-classes uptake of the C0vid vaxx very high indeed. They genuinely believe in "the Science".
Members of our ethnic communications were far less trusting, particularly with Bill Gates known exploits in Nigeria (iirc) and the Indian subcontinent being obviously felt more by immigrants here to the UK with family ties to the places Gates has allegedly experimented on.
Thanks as ever for your tenancious work Igor.
Right. Ethnic people and lower status people are very familiar with SCAMS, that a member of the laptop class would not encounter. So the poor people could easily discern covid vax as a scam -- whereas education-programmed, science-believing people could not see due to not having the mental tools to deal with the largest psyop in history.
Spot on!
Once is an accident, twice is coincidence and three is enemy action.
I think we passed three before Easter.
Speaking to a young man that new something was wrong but needed guidance. A good dose of Geert and he is sorting things pronto.
I said to him that you are at an age where pregnancies' may become an issue, the answer. Four young woman in his circles two of whom are identical twins. Great they say we can get pregnant together. One is tripled and one has none. The soon to be mother with none is well into her third trimester and the tripled is starting IVF.
The other two young ladies have at least two and just cant get pregnant, all mid twenties.
got a link?
Remember population time bomb then populate or perish, they can’t keep their story straight, didn’t with their bioweapons (from the beginning) either.